posted April 01, 2006 06:34 PM
We did this quite a bit before we got our router. Get gold colored letters (Minnesota Letters) and rough them up slighty with a green Scotchbite pad. You can use about any size, we are currently using One-Shot quick size. Coat your letters with size and wait for them to tack up and lay your leaf, we use patent leaf. Make sure you don't coat out too many letters, because you'll miss your window of oppotunity to lay your leaf. Most of the time you can get by with one guilding if you don't have too many holidays or go back and spot guild. We have letters that are still looking good after ten years using this method.
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posted April 01, 2006 07:31 PM
Have you ever used the plastic formed?
I was thinking you would have to use a water based size since it was plastic. I did not know you could use an oil size right on the plastic with out a bonding primer. should you clear coat it afterwards?
the slow size is suppose to give you a more brillant burnish, longer open time and is best used outdoors.
I'll have to try it!
chris
[ April 01, 2006, 07:33 PM: Message edited by: Chris Lovelady ]
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posted April 01, 2006 07:50 PM
Chris, for burnishing and cleaning excess gold, try and locate a box of sterile, hospital quality cotton. This is a very pure combed cotton that will not contain anything to scratch the guild. Pinch off a small quantity between your fore-finger and thumb and have at it. Don't rub, just let the cotton fibers do the burnishing. This is always the most fun part.
A good drug store usually is a good source for this. Also you may want to handle the fresh letters with clean cotton gloves.
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posted April 01, 2006 08:21 PM
Chris, I wouldn't scuff the letters as that will dull the gild by adding unessessary texture. I'd wipe the letters with a hot solvent, and airbrush a slow oil size. If the letters have threaded stud mounts set them into a piece of building foam insulation to hold them and space them off the surface. I have had too many bad experience with the 1 shot size to recommend it. Call Letterhead Sign Supply and get some LeFranc Oil Size. Let the letters sit for at least 24 hours in as dust free an environment as you have, and then throw the gold at 'em. Letterhead Supply also has these large "mops" that are terrific for pressing the gold down and polishing the letters. I have a pair of soft cotton gloves that I wear when holding the letters after gilding. The letters will last longer and look brighter without a clear coat, unless they're going where the sprinklers will hit them or people will be touching them. Hope this helps some.
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posted April 02, 2006 09:44 AM
Chris, No Scuffing is needed!!! Call Gemini tell them you are gold leafing they will send them to you ready to size, they leave off the finish.
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posted April 02, 2006 10:04 AM
Order the letters in a gold or yellow color.
Cam B. has some, wipe off, Gemini gilded letters on a board, standing in the corner, of Mike Myers studio. Sure look good.
-------------------- Joe Crumley Norman Sign Company 2200 Research Park Blvd. Norman, OK 73069 Posts: 1428 | From: 2200 Research Park Blvd. | Registered: Sep 2001
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posted April 02, 2006 11:35 AM
Joe said it. Cam described the process a while ago. It seemed to be simple and straight forward, but I have yet to try it. His explanation is at the bottom of theis page... http://www.letterhead.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/21266.html
Havin' fun,
Checkers
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posted April 02, 2006 07:38 PM
Sam, I am still unsure about applying oil size to a Plastic formed letter and it sticking. I guess I'll call Gemini and ask about it.
Rick, It makes sence to spray the size on so not to get brush marks and an even mil finish. do you thin befor spraying?
Checkers, I'm going to check out the link.Thanks
chris
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posted April 02, 2006 08:07 PM
I have always ordered white letters, scuff them with scotchbrite and spray the size on with a bit of yellow added.... I have seen Cam's technique in person and they sure do shine, but I have never done it.
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