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Dale, Dale, now you're runnin' down the Honda. Honda makes fine reliable machinery. When was the last time you saw the Honda have a warning light come on the dash saying "This vehicle has performed an illegal operation, blah blah blah..."
I'm pretty much completely PC, but truth is truth.
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Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for lunch, Benjamin Franklin Posts: 2057 | From: 1033 W. Union Valley Rd. | Registered: Feb 2003
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Apple has always built the best hardware. If they can get windoz to run on in and it increases the market share, so be it. The only big issue that I see is the microsoft side of things will still be virus vulnerable as any windows box. At least you could still boot up OS X and clean out the other side.
Dale, Honda does build a very sound product, maybe the Yugo would be a better comparison.
-------------------- Bill Modzel Mod-Zel screen Printing Traverse city, MI modzel@sbcglobal.net Posts: 1356 | From: Traverse City, MI | Registered: Nov 1998
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Software investment would be a big consideration too. If you've already outlayed money on software that only runs in Windows (or invested the time to make it work in that OS) you are not likely to change. If you had a dual OS system allowing you to run your existing software as well as provide the benefits of Mac OS then everyone gains, particularly the end user.
-------------------- David Fisher D.A. & P.M. Fisher Services Brisbane Australia da_pmf@yahoo.com Trying out a new tag: "Parents are the bones on which children cut their teeth Peter Ustinov Posts: 1450 | From: Brisbane Queensland Australia | Registered: Nov 1998
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OK Bill, I'll give you the Yugo! That would be a better comparison.
I realize that Honda makes fine equipment, I've worked on a few of them in my day.
My point was, why would anyone want to replace a Hemi with anything?
Why would anyone want to run windows on a Mac, defeats the whole purpose! Perhaps they should spend their time trying to run the Mac OS on PC's. Uncle Bill(ionaire) would love that!
Then again that would be like putting a Hemi in a Yugo....hey that gives me an idea!
Happy computing with whatever you're running...Yugo or Challenger!
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Ya know...I think most people that love to hate Bill Gates exhibit the most basic of human traits: Jealousy and envy.
Most people that slam gates include some comment about his wealth which I translate into "class envy."
For some reason, the thought that a geeky looking, skinny kid had the smarts, good fortune, and insight to build a company of his size is very aggrivating to some people.
Why? I don't know. I always thought that was the American Dream.
Instead of thinking in terms of the several billion Bill Gates has....think instead of the many more billions the US and countries worldwide have accumulated in no small part through the use of systems and software running through his Operating System.
I read many reports about the Gate's giving millions and millions to charities such as for aids research, etc.
Is his product perfect? Of course not....I haven't seen a perfect product yet.
But I do know this: A Honda engineered engine (and drivetrain for that matter) will be purring along without a rattle long after a Dodge/Chrysler Hemi is rusting away in a junkyard.
That said...I have nothing against Mac's and in fact, may purchase one next go-round. It probably is a better system for art related fields.
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I'm not arguing with you Dale, but how many articles have you read of late where some pc guy get's a Mac to test and after a month or so realizes he hasn't booted up his Dell in a week.
What a great way to finally convince the dark side what a piece of cobbled together operating system they've been putting up with for years.
Here's to Challengers,. . . . .or Ford GT's
-------------------- Bill Modzel Mod-Zel screen Printing Traverse city, MI modzel@sbcglobal.net Posts: 1356 | From: Traverse City, MI | Registered: Nov 1998
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Dude a Hemi in a Yugo would kick butt! Hmm.. so would the Honda engine for that matter.. hahahaha.
I'm not sure why anyone is impressed with Windows running on an Intel Mac, Jobs already announced that possibility from the very beginning of the project.
Oh BTW, the new Mac mini is an Intel version, a $600 system with dual core processors, 4X as fast as the previous version of the mini... SMOKIN'!
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Mike Pipes stickerpimp.com Lake Havasu, AZ mike@stickerpimp.com Posts: 8746 | From: Lake Havasu, AZ USA | Registered: Jun 2000
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ITs not the fact that MAC/PC stuff is being done. That does not matter.
To some of us,,, its an oportunity to make more some BIG money fixing someone else's hacks.. Remember SP2? That one made me a small fortune.
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Don't want to hiJack this post but there are more Honda engines in junk yards then Hemis or dodges for that matter, Todd. Other then that your reply to the post was truthful
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I love knowing I can work on my PC if I want to, I love being able to buy PC parts almost anyplace. If Steve Jobs would make a line of Macs for guys like me then I would own a Mac.
One more thing, I hate what most Mac products look like always saying their product looks so cool, what was that one Mac with the hockey puck for a mouse? What was the one they built in a white lunch box?
-------------------- Steve Eisenreich Dezine Signs PO BOX 6052 Stn Forces Cold Lake, Alberta T9M 2C5 Posts: 774 | From: Cold Lake | Registered: Mar 2000
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Joey...thanks for your support for the rest of my previous post....but I still would have to disagree on the Hemi verses Honda debate....
I just researched my online subscription to Consumer Reports who thoroughly tests vehicles and tabulate reliability results based upon thousands of owner respondents each year....
Here is their judgement criteria for recommending cars - from their site:
New-vehicle Ratings comparison by car category
"This chart shows you how each vehicle that Consumer Reports has tested is rated in several major areas. You can easily compare vehicles in terms of overall test score, predicted reliability, owner satisfaction, accident-avoidance capacity, crash protection, and fuel economy.
To re-sort the vehicles by a specific criteria, click on the column heads.
CR's Recommended models are noted with a check. To be recommended, a vehicle must meet several criteria. To provide better guidance for car buyers, Consumer Reports offers consumers two tiers of recommended vehicles. To earn our first-tier recommendation , vehicles must have performed well in CR's tests, have average or better reliability, and, if crash-tested, provide good overall crash protection based on our composite of insurance-industry and government crash tests. Vehicles also must not have tipped up in the government rollover test.
To earn our more stringent, second-tier recommendation , vehicles must meet all first-tier requirements, have been included in both the frontal-offset and side-crash tests conducted by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, and provide very good or excellent overall crash protection."
Guess what Joey? Almost every Honda model earned CR's more stringent second tier recommendation. User respondents rated their reliability tops.
Sorry to say...there were only a couple of Dodge/Chrysler products that even made the 1st tier recommendation.....reliability generally wasn't good.
Although...the PT Cruiser did get a recommendation and I suspect that replacing their old junky drivetrains/transmissions with Mercedes quality parts since the buyout will help.
They do have some of the nicer styling though.
I am questioning the variable cylinder technology that seems trendy these days with all makes of vehicles....where 4 of the eight Hemi cyclinders shut down while cruising at highway speeds and then kick in hunder harder acceleration and torque requirements.....seems to me like half the pistons/cylinders, etc would get way more wear than the others.
And I do recall GM trying that with a Cadillac years ago (4/6/8 cylinder engine) and it was a nightmare....Technology is much improved since then though....might be perfectly fine now?
-------------------- Todd Gill Outside The Lines Potterville, MI Posts: 7792 | From: Potterville, MI | Registered: Dec 2001
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I'm not sure why it's a feat that Windows XP can run on an Intel processor. It's also no big deal that OS X can run on an Intel processor. The Mac OS X is essentially a BSD variant, and BSD has been running on Intel processors for years. Now that both operating systems will be running on the similar hardware, it will make benchmark testing more meaningful.
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quote:Originally posted by Steve Eisenreich: I love knowing I can work on my PC if I want to, I love being able to buy PC parts almost anyplace. If Steve Jobs would make a line of Macs for guys like me then I would own a Mac.
What's keeping you from working on a Mac? The hard drives, RAM sticks, video cards, sound cards, CD ROM/DVD units.. all off-the-shelf standard interface stuff. Only exceptions are the notebooks which would be the same story for PC notebooks too, and the iMac you're pretty much stuck with the video and sound you're given but everything else can be swapped out and upgraded pretty easily by the end user. PC and Mac hardware are one in the same these days.
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Mike Pipes stickerpimp.com Lake Havasu, AZ mike@stickerpimp.com Posts: 8746 | From: Lake Havasu, AZ USA | Registered: Jun 2000
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Hey how did Hemi's start getting trashed in here???!! I love my HEMI and my MAC.
The only better might be a Hemi Powered MAC!!
I sincerely doubt there's many hemi-powered vehicle rusting ANYWHERE these days in any junk yard. If you find one, let me know so I can snag it quick.
The Mopar collector marketing is insane right now.
Like a dummy, I keep putting money in the market and my brother puts them in Dodge Daytonas. His has nearly tripled in value, mine about 12% over the last 6 years.
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Love it Doug. That must be the new Dodge G5 quadruple quad.
-------------------- Bill Modzel Mod-Zel screen Printing Traverse city, MI modzel@sbcglobal.net Posts: 1356 | From: Traverse City, MI | Registered: Nov 1998
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Isn't it strange how these threads change direction? I thought we were talking about computers...and then I found out it was really about cars and engines.
I don't have a Mac or a hemi. But the sun keeps coming up every morning.
-------------------- Chapman Sign Studio Temple, Texas chapmanstudio@sbcglobal.net Posts: 6306 | From: Temple, Texas, USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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AHAHA!!! All challengers didn't make it out of the waterbox!!! Look at all them lopsided blowers!!! BTW, turboed Honda on juice in other lane? Just went 6.87 @ 199mph!!!
-------------------- Frank Magoo, Magoo's-Las Vegas; fmagoo@netzero.com "the only easy day was yesterday" Posts: 2365 | From: Las Vegas, Nv. | Registered: Jun 2003
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