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Rick Milne
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This was rather bizarre. I put in my Corel 8 clipart CD last night, and it wouldn't read the files. The CD would auto-load, show the categories, but next to each listing was the Corel "C" symbol - and the categories wouldn't open. Said that the file doesn't exist, please select a valid file name. I tried it on two different computers and got the same message. Odd thing is the disk worked fine up until a week ago when I last used it. And of course, Corel doesn't sell just the clipart CD's.
Anyone have a clue what's going on??

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Glenn Taylor
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Have you tried accessing the CD on a different computer? I've had a couple CD drives go bad on me that did the same thing.

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Rick Milne
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Yep, and both computers have dual CD drives - same error on all four drives.

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Ewwww.....

Are there any scratches or blemishes on the CD that you can see?

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Rick Milne
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No, just a minor (maybe 1/32") chip off one edge. I even polished it with an auto polish!

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I'll see if I can burn a copy of it onto a CD or DVD and get it mailed out to you by tomorrow via USPS Priority. Let me know if it works for you.

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Somebody needs to mention homemade application fluid, so that Roger can show Corel how to get the most out of being a merchant here. [Wink]

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Russ McMullin
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Edge chips are significant. I bought a DVD recently that had no scratches, but the edge had two tiny chips. I couldn't get it to play to matter what.

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Thanks, Glenn! Let me know if I owe you anything for it - nobody works for nuthin!

Russ - that had crossed my mind. I may try to carefully sand back the edge to see what happens. Good thought there!


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Maybe you could repair it with a drop of superglue. I wonder if it's the imbalance or the air resistance that causes the problem. On my DVD the chip wasn't in any of the data area.

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It was this BB, I believe, where someone posted a recent link to a story that CDs seem to have about a 2-year life. I haven't had a program disk die yet, but 2 recordables from Office Depot have turned into junior frisbees. They had contained vector and bitmap files. Now they read as Audio CDs with 17 tracks. I've never recorded an audio file, and these don't open anyway.

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I'd sure be interested in reading the two year lifespan story. I've got audio CDs that are as old as the CD audio industry play as good as new. So, there must be more to that story.

One thing that I've wondered about CDRs is what is the difference between the cheapies and the name brands?

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It's a scientific fact that a chip along the leading edge of a CD can directly affect the rarified air molecules that relate to the thermo dynamics of the read/write head mechanism.

In order for the lazer to burn the data into the polymer substratum the temperature has to reach a critical 512 degrees to alter the molecules.

Even a scratch can cause your data to be ill written and cause failures. If a CD is subjected to extreme heat such as being left in a car during the summer, your data can melt and even create new hybrid files you won't recognize when you play back. I had an audio CD do that once and the words of the song melted from one track to another and changed the lyrics completely.

So be very careful to take care of them if you have important files on them.

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People tend to try to protect the bottom part of the CD from scratches, but the top is actually much more fragile. A scratch on the top will result in a loss of the material that holds the data, with no way to fix it. The cheaper CDs have tops that chip or flake off very easily - even from CDs just sliding together.

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quote:
Originally posted by Bob Stephens:
I had an audio CD do that once and the words of the song melted from one track to another and changed the lyrics completely.

Just checking to see if we're reading your posts, Bob? [Wink]

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Originally posted by Russ McMullin:
People tend to try to protect the bottom part of the CD from scratches, but the top is actually much more fragile. A scratch on the top will result in a loss of the material that holds the data, with no way to fix it. The cheaper CDs have tops that chip or flake off very easily - even from CDs just sliding together.

Some of my backup CDs got wet during our hurricane, followed by eight weeks of summer temps and no AC. Several lost the "silver" coating completely, leaving only transparent discs. I know that's the extreme, but still proof that CDs aren't invulnerable.

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Are DVDs any better?

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quote:
Originally posted by Glenn Taylor:
Are DVDs any better?

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DVDs have the same basic inherent weaknesses as CDs. I'm not sure if they are designed to last any longer under ideal conditions.

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Don said "I'd sure be interested in reading the two year lifespan story. I've got audio CDs that are as old as the CD audio industry play as good as new. So, there must be more to that story."
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http://computerworld.com/hardwaretopics/storage/story/0,10801,107607,00.html

Says that "burned" CDs have short life, and some originals are questionable.

I also have good CDs a lot older than 2 years, so I reckon there is more to that story. I haven't kept it all in mind, because I don't remember the story telling what to do about it.

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This subject was just talked about on the news station the other morning. Music/movie CD's are or have a high/different quality. If I had known this subject was going to come up here, I would have paid more attention.

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I have the first CD I ever bought ( 1990 ) and it still works fine. It's probably been played about 50 times.

The amazing one however is one we play when our foster kids go to bed. Its a lullaby CD and we play it for our current foster kids ( 1, 3 & 4 ) . We have been playing this thing for a bunch of different kids for over 4 years, and it has probably been played at least 1200 times!

Also of note Barney VCR tapes are good for at least 100 or more showings...

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quote:
Originally posted by Tom Rose:
Also of note Barney VCR tapes are good for at least 100 or more showings...

Why can't they put those on the cheapie tapes that only last a few playings????

I remember babysitting about 1990 and I think I watched that ^%#&*()&$% purple dinosaur a zillion times. I hated him long before he became popular in the mainstream.

[ March 03, 2006, 06:51 PM: Message edited by: Kissymatina ]

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I found out the hard way that CD-RW discs have a limited number of times they can be rewritten.
We have for years kept out Signlab and Gerber files on Zip discs to keep the hard discs free. We keep a Zip disc for each letter of the alphabet.
When we got our first CD writer we used the rewrite disc with several letters of the alphabet and after using the disc for sometime it just quit! Would not open, could not read any files in any program or any computer. Windows Exployer showed an empty disc. We lost more than 6 months of files. That was 4 years ago and we still have times when we have to recreate a file that was lost.
I called HP the manufacture of the rewriter and they told me about the problem, a Rewrite Disc has a limited number of times it can be rewitten. Has nothing to do with the amount of information on the disc or number of files. They did not know how many times the limit was, but I would guess it would be several.

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I too, have all my files on zip disks,
now it is hard to find the disks or the drives,
I'm going to networking with backups,
No cds for me anymore,
even the software ones can get damaged easily,
I usually make a back up for them and use it for the clipart, I think when I get my new system I'll just put the clip art on the drives.
Bill

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