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For the past several weeks I have been negotiating with a couple of companies to manufacture more KillerKarts as many have called and asked about them.
If there are any of you who are interested in one, please contact me either by email or phone. I would also like to know what persons who own one think of which accessory can be added to make them more to your liking. I'm considering making them in a combination of aluminum and steel or just aluminum if I can get the posts in aluminum which are very hard to come by.
Hope this link works for those who don't know what they are. KillerKart
-------------------- HotLines Joey Madden - pinstriping since 1952 'Perfection, its what I look for and what I live for'
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Yes Mike and PrimaDonna, I have all intentions of becoming a merchant as I was in the past if you recall, that was when I had a product to be sold. This post however is to get a positive response as to what a person wants added to the KillerKart before they are made
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I think you need to add a paper towel rack and a mirror, also a little slot for change and a hook or clamp to attach a trash bag. Love....Jill
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good offer joey,, by the way.. one of the leg segments on my kart is lost from the hurricane.. I would get a new kart.. Or at least a new leg segment.
The size for me is perfect. A towel holder would be great.. A pair of notches on one edge would be great to hold a trash bag. I cut a pair into mine to hold those plastic bags like walmart gives you to carry out stuff..
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As they say, timing is everything, heheh, Jill made me chuckle, solution to all her additions can be handled by using magnets...and next door in another post is very interesting thread on magnets, their sizes, uses, and sources; talk about timing!!!!
I'd like an alumiumn, but totally happy w/mine, though, I'm going to larger, air filled tires...I live in the desert and water is scarce, and EVERYONES going to rock this and rock that, sooooooo, I work around alot of ROCKS...
-------------------- Frank Magoo, Magoo's-Las Vegas; fmagoo@netzero.com "the only easy day was yesterday" Posts: 2365 | From: Las Vegas, Nv. | Registered: Jun 2003
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We have a feeling there are many of you that have have, or have thought about, developing a product to sell to others in our trade. You know you have to advertise somewhere, but the cost is holding you back. The big fear is "What if I pay to advertise, and my product flops?" Becoming a Merchant is a real bargin at $500 a year, but when you are just starting out, $500 is a big investment.
Letterville needs to generate more income. In order to generate more cash flow, we have to first help others do the same. In a nutshell, we make money by helping others make money. We have the daily traffic all websites dream of generating. The big question is finding the most effective way to put buyers and sellers together.
We are toying with the idea of an online store. People like Joey would be able to offer their products and pay us a commission on what sells. I am amazed that someone has not taken advantage of BB Topics to come up with t-shirts and other stuff that other Letterheads would love to own. The advantage of taking orders in advance prevents you from ending up with a huge stock of designs that may not sell.
There is a downside. You all know that I have had 4 heart attacks and diabetes. Congestive heart failure is our biggest fear. The last thing I need at this point is more work or stress. We don't want to get into the shipping and handling that sometimes goes along with these stores. We'll look after the promotion, but you guys have to do the rest.
So what do you think?
-------------------- Steve Shortreed 144 Hill St., E. Fergus, Ontario Canada N1M 1G9 519-787-2673
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I think free enterprise is great, and in order to maintain organized rule, there must be ..RULES. It is not fare to one merchant that pays the fees and another is hocking his wares without paying. If Letterville is a never ending Letterhead Meet, let's try and keep it fair. I have ran a few meets in my day and I have had people want to come and sell their wares without a vendor fee and it is NOT FAIR to the ones that pay. Nothing personal, Joey, i hope you sell a bilion killerkarts, but what if Joe Blow sign painter had a similar "deathkart" and wanted to sell it here without paying as a merchant? Sucks don't it. Sorry about the health problems you have been having Steve, have you thought about trying a ISA show once to reach more Merchants? that's where the bulk of them are, right?
my 2 cents
-------------------- Mike Meyer Sign Painter 189 1st Ave n P.O. Box 3 Mazeppa, Mn 55956
We are not selling, we are staying here in Mazeppa....we cannot re-create what we have here....not in another lifetime! SO Here we are!!!!!!!
I have been toying with the act of doing the merchant thing again but....... with the bargain prices that I have dialed in to my T-shirt gig it does not match up to the responses I would need to match a cost benefit. Although I would rather sell just one T-shirt than a gaggle it makes sense to me to focus where the greater amount of activity will be. The Pinstripe shirt is only one of many styles I will pursue in the future as most folks needs are what we call selfish art, ie: cats, dogs, fish, boats, birds, surfing, flowers and so on. I started with pinstripes for the love of it and will continue to add more stuff also. There is another 15 designs in the oven. I am only looking for wages and very aware that the the gold is not in T-shirts. But....if I come up with a idea that can work for us I'll join in.
-------------------- Jack Wills Studio Design Works 1465 E.Hidalgo Circle Nye Beach / Newport, OR Posts: 2914 | From: Rocklin, CA. USA | Registered: Dec 1998
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A commission based online store was talked about long ago. Time to put it in effect!
To me, vendors such as Multicam are in a different catagory of a letterhead selling something on the side. I think the commission thing is a neat idea.
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I didn't see a single thing posted when others mentioned something about their new ventures. A recent example is the flames..
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After reading Jack's response, I have changed my mind about a few things. Talk about a kick in the gonads. The guy posts how he really isn't interested in selling his t-shirts, but goes ahead and drops a link into his new website.
Anyone who has ever done business with friends or relatives often finds themselves in this same spot. These people expect to be treated different because they are pals. Most of us like to help those we consider friends, and continue to fall into the trap again and again.
Hosting Letterhead meets is often the same. There are always "friends" that expect free admission. Some even demand their costs be picked up. It's up to the host to decide what they want to do, but the truth is that it sucks to be put in these situations.
I should have learned this lesson back in 1983 when I quit drinking. 80% of my best friends disappeared overnight. hahahahahahaha What a shock eh? Yet here I am again doing the same thing again and again.
Curtis. There are all sorts of things that go on behind the scenes you guys will never be aware of. Barb and I live a very transparent life here in Letterville. We've attended many, many meets and spent a lot of personal time with you guys. Compare the personal interaction we have with our users to any other website or magazine. We love it, but there are times that familiarity has it's pitfalls. Doing private business with specific, named individuals in a public forum is somewhere I just won't go.
So here's what I am going to do. Everyone gets one free plug. Call it a free sample. After that vendors either play by the rules, or go directly to the Supplier's Soapbox.
We're still here to help out if you need us. Call and we'll work something out. Now I have to go soak my backend. It's a little sore from all the extra use.
[ March 03, 2006, 02:48 AM: Message edited by: Steve Shortreed ]
-------------------- Steve Shortreed 144 Hill St., E. Fergus, Ontario Canada N1M 1G9 519-787-2673
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I do remember Steve, that I sent many a gift to the letterhead website in the past. You did not seem to be bothered by those times. My apology if I ****ed you or anyone off. It was not my intention. Please remove the sticking it to you mention ie: my web add. You may have misunderstood my words. It is simply about the math.
CrazyJack
-------------------- Jack Wills Studio Design Works 1465 E.Hidalgo Circle Nye Beach / Newport, OR Posts: 2914 | From: Rocklin, CA. USA | Registered: Dec 1998
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I apologize Jack. You were just being a smart businessman. The offending words are gone. This sort of stuff has nothing to do with the reason I started this website. It's time to pass the flame on to someone younger and smarter. We're ready to retire.
-------------------- Steve Shortreed 144 Hill St., E. Fergus, Ontario Canada N1M 1G9 519-787-2673
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oh Puleeeeze! Like we won't notice an "accidental" link dropping. hahhaaaa
Ah ... and gifts with strings attached. Are those REALLY "gifts"? hmmmm ....not in my book.
OK, so if you can't sell a quantity of 30 items here worth 17 each, in one year, then I guess the math in advertising doesn't work out. (especially when you can dodge in quick for free and use past "gifts" as a buffer)
But hey, back to the point. How 'bout that store idea? That might just be the trick for a new smaller venture eh?
Nettie
-------------------- "When Love and Skill Work Together ... Expect a Masterpiece"
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Oh Curtis … don’t even get me started! Hahhahaa The “flames” are an example alright. HAH!
Here’s a guy that contacts the mayor asking permission to mention a new product … with the intentions of becoming a merchant once he makes some headway. He gets his free plug (among many others later)
He goes on to put an oversized COLOUR ad in SC (cha-ching), and then becomes a merchant on another forum. Meanwhile, he boasts on more than one occasion here about his successes, all the while proclaiming his intentions of becoming a Letterville merchant.
That my friends is a PRIME example of how it’s done … and why some new ideas are now being brought to the table here.
Personally, I think Steve and Barb need to pull the reigns abit tighter.
My 2 cents. Nettie
-------------------- "When Love and Skill Work Together ... Expect a Masterpiece"
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Oh Janet.. Yes, I watch.. And know someone was goona take the pipe.. Some of us discussed it before it happened..
But, the whole point.. For example.. A few self appointed will bash someone asking for clip art, The same few will not say any thing when certain others ask for clip art.
Joey started this thread.. A person expressed his valid opinion about this thread and a couple others piled it on. Likewise, if other persons did a thread like this,, nothing would've been said.
Steve does a pretty good job of handling his work he is a hell of a diplomat.
But, when a certain select few pile on and act like the post police,,, that makes his work harder. I see it all the time,, The bad part is,, it gives fundamentalist detractors the ammo to say a double standard exists.. Likewise, we find Steve post on other sites to counter the negative crap. All of which started by the ammo given to those who look for ways to bash steve..
Finally, to anyone who knows the 7 principles of persuasion they will know that..
(1. A free sample (gift) is one of the oldest technique in the book. (2. A possible client sees others are joining makes him more likely to join. (3. Remove fear of embarrasment is critical..
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Thanks for kind words Janette. You've been a good friend for a longtime and we love ya to bits.
We've been at this game for 10 years now. It's been very satisfying to watch it grow. Thanks to Letterville, we have made close friends all over the World and managed to make a living in the process. No complaints here.
We're often asked what will happen to Letterville after you are gone. My usual response is to shrug it off and pretend I'll be around forever. In truth, I just assumed Barb would carry on, or make her own decision about selling at that point.
Letterville has reached a point where it requires more energy than we can provide. It's time someone else takes over the controls and takes Letterville to the next level.
As for us? I want to go visit our friends downunder, pay off some remaining debt from the sign shop days, attend some Letterhead meets as a civilian and take more time to spend with Family and Friends.
BTW Curtis. Out of respect, I have never posted on other websites. We all have different opinions, but posting in other Forums could be seen as using another's hard work to promote my own venture. I can get in enough trouble right here at home.
[ March 03, 2006, 01:07 PM: Message edited by: Steve Shortreed ]
-------------------- Steve Shortreed 144 Hill St., E. Fergus, Ontario Canada N1M 1G9 519-787-2673
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My main concern at this moment in time is in the manufacturing of a hydroponic system called the Reppertron, a system which grows 200 to 400 plants with a harvest time as little as every 30 days and although I do have a website and 20 or so in stock I choose not to give anyone here a link.
My other concern is re-manufacturing of the killerkart which many Letterheads own including Mike Lavallee, George Perkins, Mister J, Ron Purcell and along with many of those who have answered. I have not yet made more but when I do, I will go through the proper channels.
My apologies to Mike Meyer and to all those who feel offended for whatever they think I've done but remember that I didn't start the fire and the world's been burning since the world's been turning
-------------------- HotLines Joey Madden - pinstriping since 1952 'Perfection, its what I look for and what I live for'
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Well, I see nothings changed around here.....!! I only drop in occasionally and then, only bother opening the posts of a handful of good people...... Always someone got nuthin to say.....but love beatin on their keyboards....
Steve & Barb do a Great job on this place "Without" all the buttin in.....and like was said....It really creates more work for them to smooth things out.......fro useless posts..... (ain't sure why I bother with my useless input......ain't nuthin ever gonna change.....hahahah)
To answer your questions on the "Killer Kart'..... I like the hell out of mine...
I would like to see a little larger top tray.....maybe only an inch or so both ways.... and possibly accessory trays that hook over the edge like Snap-On and Mac boxes......
One last thing Joey.........
How the Hell are Ya... ??
Doin GREAT, I hope........
.......cj
Fergot to add... The only people that should even be responding to Joeys post on His Killer Kart.....
Are the People "THAT OWN ONE" ...or are gonna buy one........
[ March 03, 2006, 01:56 PM: Message edited by: CJ Allan ]
-------------------- CJ Allan CJs Engraving 982 English Dr. Hazel, KY 42049
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If ya need a hand doin' the tiller work Joey, I'd be honored to drive up and even pull a few weeds just to make them plants happy.
CrazyJack, A little flame don't hurt us old cats.
-------------------- Jack Wills Studio Design Works 1465 E.Hidalgo Circle Nye Beach / Newport, OR Posts: 2914 | From: Rocklin, CA. USA | Registered: Dec 1998
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aint it funny after all the back slapin and salutations about how good a freind everybody is...THE DOLLAR RULES??? dontchaluvit......
-------------------- joe pribish-A SIGN MINT 2811 longleaf Dr. pensacola, fl 32526 850-637-1519 BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND Posts: 11582 | From: pensacola, fl. usa | Registered: Nov 1998
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It's a shame, but that's the way it works Joe. You can change things for the better right now! Stand up for a free society! Have Hennie quit work, stop paying your bills and count on your friends and Family to pay your way. Free love too.
Do you still believe the stuff we did in the 60's and 70's? Money isn't everything, but it is the exchange for everything. That includes our internet access.
I wish I could draw cartoons. I'm seeing a guy with a ponytail lecturing his kids on the value of playing with their own poop instead of chasing their dreams of real toys.
Now there is a design people might buy!
I love ya to bits OP, but we will never see eye to eye on the free is better stuff. Poor people will never be able to help poor people.
Good to see you CJ. Hope the Family is doing well. Still got that bigass rat snake living in your tree?
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-------------------- Steve Shortreed 144 Hill St., E. Fergus, Ontario Canada N1M 1G9 519-787-2673
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Actually Si, the plastic killer milk crate tool carrier was created as a sign kit back in the early days on the west coast and was once made for persons whose personalities matched their work. Other inventions such as the super work cart made from supermarket shopping carts took effect back in the 70's. Throughout my life I've always made it a point to do things differently, simple and effective but that was revised by others who were on a shoestring budget and at this time use the phone book palette, the 6 bottle brush cleaner and how can we all forget the famous soap bar mouse connected to everyone's computer for exceptional design work
-------------------- HotLines Joey Madden - pinstriping since 1952 'Perfection, its what I look for and what I live for'
quote:Originally posted by Steve Shortreed: I wish I could draw cartoons. I'm seeing a guy with a ponytail lecturing his kids on the value of playing with their own poop instead of chasing their dreams of real toys.
Oh, man...and THAT'S the edited version! It'd be almost worth the price of admission to read the original post. Send the kids to their room...this could get ugly!
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Maybe the owners of the Killerkarts should have received customer survreys or personal e-mails, or perhaps the title of this post should have read "Attn. Killerkart owners" and us non-owners would have never read into it. But since I did I feel I can give my .02 Part of business as we all know is getting a free plug somewhere, and yes Letterville can feel like a "hometown" so why not, many have done it or tried and will continue I'm sure, but know that the Mayor has spoken like in any hometown, their are policies layed down and I can respect that. Even though it can feel like "our hometown" if Letterville was to aquire some debt or become involved in some liabilties most of us would become invisible. I guess Letterville is like a double-edged sword for me , as I can see no harm with a little plug (I would try it) but on the other hand feel that it is wrong. Many of us that mix business with creativity maybe jog back and forth across the lines, human nature I think. I do wish I woulda had one of them karts years ago when I was draggin' TV trays arond vehicles instead. Hey did I say anything? I am not sure,...I guess I am just thinking aloud (with my keyboard). Man, some posts really go off on tangents. Whatever.
-------------------- Rich Stebbing RichSigns Rohnert Park CA 707-795-5588 Posts: 755 | From: Rohnert Park, CA | Registered: Nov 1998
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