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Mike Stowe
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Hello...
I just upgraded the firmware to my Graphtec FC7000-100 (42").

After the upgrade - I am having problems with cutting. Straight lines do not cut straight, they look slightly wavy. (see attached pic).

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I have a call in to tech support, but they are taking a long time to get back due to the fact they are moving to a new location or something.

The reason I upgraded to the new firmware is due to some problems with my sheet cut off feature. The upgrade did not fix this issue, so if anyone knows if I can go back to my old firmware - that may help.

Thanks for any info.
Mike

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Mike Stowe
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Steve Eisenreich
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That does not look good, I bet you can go back but I would double check everything else first. Are you sure the text is perfectly straight in the graphic? Is the cutter itself coming loose give it a shake and see if anything is kind of loose and then fix, is the cutting stip at all damaged? How about did you upgrade your plotter driver to the latest driver after the firmware? Is any other program running in the background that is not needed when cutting on your PC? Last thought of maybe a cause is your power running the plotter is it good? Well give these a try and if you already did then maybe you will have to roll back to the old firmware.

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Howard Keiper

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What I would do 1st is to use the plotter's ROTATE function, re-send the data (don't copy it), see if the distortion looks the same or not. If it does, it's a software problem; if not, it's the cutter.
hk

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Howard Keiper
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Mike Stowe
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If I rotate the image - the distortion appears on different line segments. It appears to be aproblem with the way the cutter cust vertical lines.

Howard - Can I roll back the firmwre to the older version?

Thanks
Mike

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Mike Stowe
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Frank Droog
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You are probably sending HPGL to the cutter from some program you didnt mention.
Can you plot to a file instead and maybe call the file "c:\test.plt" Make sure to give it a PLT extension.
Then reimport the PLT file into say Corel or other program that reads HPGL.
If it looks on screen as bad as it cuts, its the the software you using.

[ February 08, 2006, 10:13 AM: Message edited by: Frank Droog ]

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Mike Stowe
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I am using Flexi 7.6 v.2
It is not a problem with the software.
I brought the .PLT into corel & it looked fine - Also, I did not have any cutting problems till I upgraded the firmware on the cutter.

Thanks
Mike

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Mike Stowe
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Mike,

When you upgraded the firmware did it change the setting on the plotter back to the default from HPGL? Just curious.

I have my 30" now and haven't had any issues but I haven't upgraded the firmware. I do have a problem figuring out how to line up the vinyl so it will track straight over 6 ft. It's moving left about 1/2" when I run out 8ft. of vinyl.

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Howard Keiper

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Mike...

There aren't any firmware issues that we're aware of.

A perfect way to find out what's happening is to do a test cut:

Set up everything normally, Select TEST

Select CUTTING PRO

Examine the result.

That test will cut the words "cutting pro" along the X axis about i" high.,about 12" long. You can use the machine's SCALE command to double or triple the size if you want. This test makes no use of outside software at all, and the letters are absolutely perfect. If you see any distortion at at all, you have a cutter problem.
You can use a pen for this to avoid wasting vinyl.

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Howard Keiper
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Mike Stowe
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I did the cutting test - still the same results.
Do you think the cutter is faulty?

Thanks
Mike

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Mike Stowe
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Frank Droog
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Node edit the job in Flexi
Are there any Nodes in the drawing where it screws up on the cutter?

If there are only nodes in the corners, it should cut corretly. If there are nodes along the sides of the letters, maybe try to delete them.

Do you have ARC support ON in flexi. Maybe take it off.

If its something loose on the cutter itself, send the job 2 or 3 or 4 times. Does it screw up EXACTLY the same way each time looking at it with a magnifying glass. (possibly back to software issue)
Or does it screw up differantly each time. (probably hardware issue)

hope you sort it out.


May Ignore this post, you got yours in a few minutes befor i did.

[ February 08, 2006, 04:44 PM: Message edited by: Frank Droog ]

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Howard Keiper

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Mike...

Well, looks like a sick puppy.

Please call our tech support (again) and make sure you talk to someone.
Call me if you have trouble with this, we have a new tech support manager who needs to know of our shortcomings.

howard

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Howard Keiper
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Mike Stowe
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Actually - I would like to go back to the old firmware to see if that is the problem.
I was not having this issue before the firmware upgrade.

Do you know if I can go back to the old firmware?
Thanks
Mike

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Mike Stowe
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Howard Keiper

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I don't know if you can or not, Mike, but the answer comes from the same source anyway...tech support. The move is over, they should be more reachable now.
hk

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Mike Stowe
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Please let me know if there is anything you can do to get me the older firmware or to fix this problem.

I have been calling Graphtec Tech support almost every business day since Feb 7th & they always tell me a tech will call back & nothing ever happens.

This is very disappointing.
Thanks
Mike

[ February 20, 2006, 10:25 AM: Message edited by: Mike Stowe ]

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Mike Stowe
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Mike...

You should be hearing from our tech support manager, Opie Abustan, in the next few hours. Please let me know if this is not the case.

hk

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Just a quick note on Graphtec Plotters.

Check the bearings on the top pressure rollers and clean them!

My plotter wasn't tracking straight. Finally one roller ceased solid!!!!!!!! The friction actually melted the rubber. On examination the other roller was starting to show signs of wear too.

Fortunately my tech here does house calls and replaced both with what looks teflon rollers. Correct Howard?

He also completely striped, serviced and cleaned the plotter for a small fee and suggested I get this done on a regular two-year basis.

An ounce of prevention is better than a ton of problems.

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Mike Stowe
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Thanks for the tip, Jon.

I'll check the rollers.
This cutter is only a few months old so I didn't think it would be an issue like that.

thanks again!
Mike

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Mike Stowe
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Steve Shortreed
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I just want to thank Howard for always watching the website and paying attention to his customer issues. Over the years, he's always been interested, and involved, in the Letterville Community.

We are constantly urging our Merchants to follow Howard's example. There are many times we hear some say that they just don't have the time. I can only shake my head.

Why is it Suppliers invest thousands of dollars to attend and man booths at trade shows that expose them to a few thousand potential customers over 3 days, yet not have time for the thousands that pass thru Leterville everyday of the year?

Never meant to hijack your post Mike. I just felt very good to see Howard helping you with your problem. That's the way it should be!

[Applause]

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Howard Keiper

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Many thanks for the plug, Steve...Heaven help anyone who'd use me as a role model.
hk

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