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Kurt Silva
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Thanks to all who contribute to this wonderful resource we have figured out how to cut an outline from Corel 12 by using the search feature. Elementry to most of you, but a big accomplishment for us. Now the problem we are having is little jagged areas on some of the letters. The font is Beanie. For the most part it's OK. But there are these little rough areas that show both on screen and in the final cut. Is there a way to smooth these out? Couldn't find any info when I did a search.

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Kurt Silva
Bend,Oregon
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A couple of things come to mind for me (which is quite an accomplishment--having two things rattling around in all that empty space at once).

First, if you have both Type 1 and True Type versions of that font, try loading and using the Type 1. The math used to construct Type 1 fonts often produces more elegant and clean letters than True Type.

Second, convert the text to curves and edit the jaggies manually. Your right mouse button will bring up a dialog box for that. Control Q will also do so. I always make a copy of the lettering before I convert to curves. That way, I still have my original for future editing.

Once you convert to curves, the shape tool (the second one from the top) will allow you to edit points to fix the problems. Once you have the curve selected, you can also change the properties of your points, making them cusp, smooth or symmetrical, and line sections, making them line or curve.

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David Harding
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Dave described, perfectly, the two options.

I've never heard of "Beanie" but it sounds like one of those free "grunge" fonts? probably not available in Type 1?

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Ditto to what David said. The type 1 fonts have less nodes. The extra nodes will cause jags. Eliminating nodes by selecting and deleting them should improve the situation. Put a type 1 and true type AvanteGarde "O" side by side and convert each to curves. Select the node edit tool and count up the nodes and the true type font will have more. The more nodes the more possibility there will be for a jag.

There is a sliding bar node reducer you can add to your property bar to help smooth curved nodes. In Corel 12 the sliding bar is too touchy, I think, for fonts, but nonetheless you can go to "tools" "customization" and "commands" and add whatever tool you need to the property bar by dragging and dropping the tool onto your page. Select All "show all items" to get your favorites like "duplicate" for example. After your done stay in the tool menu and click on "Save settings as default."

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Bill Diaz
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Ditto to what David said. The type 1 fonts have less nodes. The extra nodes will cause jags. Eliminating nodes by selecting and deleting them should improve the situation. Put a type 1 and true type AvanteGarde "O" side by side and convert each to curves. Select the node edit tool and count up the nodes and the true type font will have more. The more nodes the more possibility there will be for a jag.

There is a sliding bar node reducer you can add to your property bar to help smooth curved nodes. In Corel 12 the sliding bar is too touchy, I think, for fonts, but nonetheless you can go to "tools" "customization" and "commands" and add whatever tool you need to the property bar by dragging and dropping the tool onto your page. Select All "show all items" to get your favorites like "duplicate" for example. After your done stay in the tool menu and click on "Save settings as default."

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Bill Diaz
Diaz Sign Art
Pontiac IL
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David Harding
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Bill posted twice because he was dittoing what both Daves said.

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David Harding
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Kurt Silva
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Thanks everybody, you're all a great help. Mr. Harding that was hilarious. The font is a samari looking thing, and it is a true type font. Had to down load it off the internet. Trying to match a logo designed for them by "professionals". I'm not sure this font is the right one for a fire and rescue co. In the middle of the cascade range. So there's this two color (green w/white outline) graphic in the shape of a mountain (low triangle). It has a NW in the middle of the mountain and says emergency services to the right side of the mountain graphic. The mountain dominates so much that the copy (which is the most important element) is totally overwhelmed and almost unreadable. You know how it is, they all want it as big and readable as possible. Trying to make this work for the side windows of a blazer and still be readable is a real challenge. I liked it better in the old days when a sign professional would do a nice easy to read layout/logo on the truck FIRST. Then they would get all of their business cards, hats, shirts, etc, made to match. It sucks trying to make a silly looking layout work.

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Kurt Silva
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Tell them you have to stack the words Emergencey Sevices under the mountain range to make it fit (look) right in the window.

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Burlington, Ont.
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