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http://www.motherearthnews.com/ for all of those who dont know what it is....and for those of us who have lived this way and abandoned it for many years.....guess what folks, time to get back to livin like you know how to survive. while your waitin for you 1st issue go here and start with #1 http://www.foxfire.org/prodFFbooks.html this aint hard for me to understand, since iam an old country boy from near them thar hills of WEST BY GOD VIRGIN-I-A!!!!! all them thing my daddy taught me bout pickin mushrooms, how to drop a squirrel at 20 paces with a .22 and what all thats in the wood you can eat....might just come in handy ....heheheheheh
[ October 02, 2005, 02:36 AM: Message edited by: old paint ]
-------------------- joe pribish-A SIGN MINT 2811 longleaf Dr. pensacola, fl 32526 850-637-1519 BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND Posts: 11582 | From: pensacola, fl. usa | Registered: Nov 1998
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...ME is an awesome mag. I gave subs to friends and family last Xmas. I gave one (in an effort to "educate") to my con brother and his fundamentalist wife. They have "blinders" on however and I doubt they've even opened it. (But their kids DO read it. haha.) It's a shame that so many supposidly informed people just don't want to know what right wing "conservatism" is doing to the country (and the world).
quote:It's a shame that so many supposidly informed people just don't want to know what right wing "conservatism" is doing to the country (and the world).
... seems pretty friggin' political to me
-------------------- David Cooper, The Sign Shack Enid, OK. Posts: 658 | From: Enid,Oklahoma, USA | Registered: Dec 1998
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Join the community of readers at Mother Earth News, the world’s leading magazine about conscientious, self-sufficient living, including green home building, renewable energy, pure food and organic gardening
ummm... the "living wisely" lifestyle?
(I didn't really think the concept of awareness raising would upset or challenge anyone's political affiliations. )
quote:Originally posted by W. R. Pickett: I gave one (in an effort to "educate") to my con brother and his fundamentalist wife. They have "blinders" on however and I doubt they've even opened it. (But their kids DO read it. haha.) It's a shame that so many supposidly informed people just don't want to know what right wing "conservatism" is doing to the country (and the world).
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christ... (gotta get religion in there too) I friggin (& keep the status quo on language too) didn't like what WR said either!! WTF does that have to do with anything I posted??? WR's comments were clearly outside of house rules... but I didn't blast him on it because Glenn already did (not because of any of my own beliefs)
Glenn called out OP for starting a political discussion about a political magazine... THAT'S FALSE! ...so I simply pointed that out. That is not a defense of WR or any friggin (might as well raise the stakes & get this locked down like Glenn wanted... can't be raisin' any awareness nmow, can we)desire for a political discussion.
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The Letterville rules are not vague, nor are they complicated. Are we going to start another argument over whether Steve and Barb have a right to set their own rules on their own website....again? We all know where that leads and where it ends.
That damned dead horse, that's where.
It's too late to skip the beginning, we know the ending. So, why don't we pass on the middle part this time?
[ October 02, 2005, 09:53 AM: Message edited by: Don Coplen ]
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it's just too bad OP can't discuss learning, or re-learning how to move away from further fossil fuel dependancy instead of into further dependancy. I think that is a legitimate, non-political & completely relevant OT topic of the day.
no, there is no need to argue Steve's rules, or his right to have them. WR knew where he was going... & here we are. It ain't OP's fault! I rest my case.
I have no problem with dicussing how to more away from oil. I think we did that already and we did a pretty good job of it.
Back to ME, all I can say is that if you think its just a lifestyle magazine, you may want to investigate its affiliation with Friends of the Earth and who that group is.
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...I appologize for posting anything so provocative or political to anyone. I was venting and went overboard on the con/ lib thing. That's what I get for watching MEET THE PRESS.
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Elaine, not at all. This topic could easily have been covered without the political bullshyt. But, not to be. Some phrases in the second post of this thread were intentionally politically inflamatory and said to start a ruckus.
I applaud Steve and Barb for taking a stand to keep the liberal/conservative crap off of this board. The internet is a goldmine of sites that encourage political debates. Nobody is being deprived by the rules here. I seriously doubt anybody is going to political sites to talk about signs.
Don't buy ANY signmaking materials...because chances are great that they are either derivitives of oil, wood, metals, or are composed of chemicals known to cause cancer in the state of California.
Don't buy any groceries either, because guess what that milk jug is made out of? And that potato chip bag you're sticking your hands into?
And don't buy any tires for your car either, or slip into a pair of Nike shoes....
Have fun being tree huggers...as for me? I'm an oil loving parasite.
-------------------- Todd Gill Outside The Lines Potterville, MI Posts: 7792 | From: Potterville, MI | Registered: Dec 2001
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Okay apology accepted. Now on to the discussion at hand. I have no problem with OP, Elaine, Doug, WR or anyone else living an "earth friendly" lifestyle. In fact, if you are truly interested in this style of living find an Amish community and join in. They have been very successful for a couple hundred years not living on the "grid".
If you are talking the talk, why not walk the walk?
-------------------- David Cooper, The Sign Shack Enid, OK. Posts: 658 | From: Enid,Oklahoma, USA | Registered: Dec 1998
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Because walking the walk would actually require personal sacrifice and force them to admit that they actually live and embrace the lifestyle that they claim to so vehemently hate until its socially unacceptable to do so.
-------------------- Gavin Chachere Plotter in the garage,New Orleans La.
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Not so long ago the guy who thaught me a big chunk of the trade died from lung disease. Mind you that he did had some pretty nasty bad habits like shooting paint without a mask...or sandblasting stuff without protection...cause it was just that so often that he was doing it. well...those few times added up to a point that he got hill from not taking care of himself.
My actions add up to yours an solong ... it has a real impact on the environment...
-------------------- Élaine Beauchemin scrip Lettrage Scripsit inc. St-Hubert, Quebec, Canada www.scripsit.net Posts: 1096 | From: Saint-Hubert, Québec, Canada | Registered: Nov 1998
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hmm... whats the topic at hand now? um, well, I guess I don't have a problem with coop uprooting his entire existance to become a living exaggeration of any small misgiuded outsider perception of any topic he once commented on either. In fact if I wanted to add a few other names from this thread, then I too, could use the word "they" allowing me to easily segue from discussions of a few letterville friends into a full blown us & them cacaphony of unfounded accusations.
...now who was talking what talk again? oh yeah OP's droppin a squirrel at 20 paces cool
...oh yeah, on to vehement claims... I vehemently claim to hate over simplification & the shallow desire to pigeonhole someone elses "walk" or "talk" just for the convenience of vilifying them by association with one's own percieved socially acceptable hierarchy of moral superority
[ October 02, 2005, 04:35 PM: Message edited by: Doug Allan ]
I did the same thing when I was younger and we were spraying paint outside. Nothing more fun for an 18 year old than spraying paint in the wind and sun standing in a fog of paint holding his breath.
We used to use a lot of lacquer thinner in our shop. We bought it in 55 gallon drums. These days, we're using the more environmentally friendly soybean-based cleaners. They're a lot more expensive, but a little bit goes along way.
We've also switched to UV inks for screen printing signs and decals. The soy cleaners break it down into a biodegradable which allows us to wash it down the sink without any adverse effects. And when the containers are emptied, we can sit them out in the sun which converts the leftover ink into a solid. The nice thing about UV inks is that there is nothing to evaporate. 100% of the ink is converted into a solid which means that there is nothing to get into the lungs.
[ October 02, 2005, 03:55 PM: Message edited by: Glenn Taylor ]
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boy you conservatives really are pushin the limits on what publication people should not read. wasnt that one of theings hitler did in the early 30's in gemany? get rid of all the books that might speak against the currunt political oppression. I POSTED THE LINK TO MOTHER EARTH NEWS, because it has a lot of good infomation to make living in a world that is ruled by greed and coorperations takin advantage of all the disaster that has fallen on this counrty(where is this political?)all i was making a point of is there are ways to save what money we have and spend it wisely on something that will make life a little easier in these hourendous times we live in. now you jumperd all over ME....stop the politcal crap, and SHOULD I MAKE A SEPERATE POST FOR FOXFIRE BOOKS..or are they on your DO NOT READ LIST?
-------------------- joe pribish-A SIGN MINT 2811 longleaf Dr. pensacola, fl 32526 850-637-1519 BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND Posts: 11582 | From: pensacola, fl. usa | Registered: Nov 1998
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quote:I POSTED THE LINK TO MOTHER EARTH NEWS, because it has a lot of good infomation to make living in a world that is ruled by greed and coorperations takin advantage of all the disaster that has fallen on this counrty(where is this political?)
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This discussion is valuable if we all learn something that will help us improve our lifestyle and/or bottom lines. I've only had time to look at the front page so I don't know what secrets lie within.
To be honest, I'd rather see those of you infatuated with religious and political junk taking these discussions to other forums that deal with this stuff. Don't forget to include a link back to Letterville while you are there.
We're having a discussion on layout and design in another post. The next topic will be informal vs formal layout. This stuff will make all your signs look better and increase their value. You'll make more money, we'll avoid bumping heads, and our lives will be much less stressfull.
To all those commenting on this post. I want you all to dig into your Mike Stevens "Mastering Layout" books and help your fellow Letterheads improve their design skills. There are all sorts of places that deal with other topics. We come here as Letterheads first.
Thanks in advance for respecting the rules of Letterville.
One last comment. If you have extra money, I would suggest investing in a subscription to SignCraft Magazine and/or a trip to a live meet. Beats shooting and eating squirrel anyday.
[ October 02, 2005, 04:57 PM: Message edited by: Steve Shortreed ]
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quote:Originally posted by old paint: boy you conservatives really are pushin the limits on what publication people should not read. wasnt that one of theings hitler did in the early 30's in gemany? get rid of all the books that might speak against the currunt political oppression.
end with this?:
quote:Originally posted by old paint: stop the politcal crap
Speaking of conservation and the like can be done without political sniping.
Comparing any group with Hitler is pretty much a conversation stopper in anybody's book.
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I think its just an anomaly in the matrix. One of these posts has to pop up every couple of weeks or the world explodes.
And since when did squirrels become vegetables? What kind of vegetarian are you , OP. First I find out you eat seafood, now you're eating tree rats. What's next, I run into you at Denny's eating a bacon cheeseburger?
(by the way, the Foxfire books are where the plans for the ill-fated moonshine still came from)
[ October 02, 2005, 10:22 PM: Message edited by: Patrick Whatley ]
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Love of earth, or politics, or just veggies, or squirrels. Love of 'tags or labels'...
It's entirely up to the individual.
All I want...is More.
More Understanding, more Hope, more Care, more YOU and more ME. I want more SIGN stuff, less ME stuff.
Enuff.
-------------------- Karen Wunch (kwunch on chat) A2Z SIGNS in Buford, GA 678.714.1965 ---------------- "Believe there is a great power silently working all things for good, behave yourself and never mind the rest." ~~Beatrice Potter Posts: 126 | From: Buford Georgia | Registered: Jan 2003
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Wel-l-l-l-l, speaking of fosil fuels, etc, I just got a big manila envelope from the BATF with my fuel alchohol permit application. If I'm accepted, that will allow me to have a -get this- legal still.
I havn't seen the rules yet, but I heard somewhere that you have to add acetone or something similar to make it into denatured alchohol. No big, I didn't plan on consuming the stuff anyway. I talked to a guy that's had a legal still for years, and he said that the stuff that drips out the end of the pipe contains keytones and acetone and other stuff. My guess is that's why drinking alchohol is aged in charred oak barrels, the charcoal absorbs those impurities.
I'm actually getting the cart ahead of the horse here, as I rent the house I live in, and this being the Bible belt and all, the landlord very well may have a big thing against the whole idea. And please, no bad comments about them, after all, they already put up with my other shenanigans(sp?) as it is.
I've got a BUNCH of irons in the fire as it is, so this project could be slow in coming along, but I'll keep you posted.
-------------------- James Donahue Donahue Sign Arts 1851 E. Union Valley Rd. Seymour TN. (865) 577-3365 brushman@nxs.net
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