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You should send this to the EPA, and tell them that there never has been a case of someone eating a sign. I am old enough to remember how very good it was to work with white lead, and how nice it was not to worry about how the sign would last. There was nothing better to coat out the background in window lettering and stipple it. Smalt signs worked real well with white lead and oil color.
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I tried to eat a sign once, but it wouldn't roll up in my tortilla.
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Does anybody on here actually think out govt *cares* about some ghetto child eating paint chips? Why would they get their panties in a wad over a couple of kids that did that? The real reason they didn't want you having white lead is that they can not see thru it with imaging equipment. That's not my 2 centavos worth; that came from a bud of mine that worked for the See eye aye. If they really wanted to elimate a lot of uselsss deaths they'd have outlawed tobacco.
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"If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants." Sir Issac Newton Posts: 3528 | From: Warner Robins, GA | Registered: Oct 2004
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Rick, Was that before or after the Mafia Killed Kennedy and the Moon landings in Arizona.
Buy the way can White lead be purchased anywhere in the world any longer. Just curious. As I know my LaFranc still has lead as the Skull and crossbones are larger then the name.
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I was at a flea market a couple of years ago, found (but didn't buy) a roll of sheet lead. It was no more than 1/8" thick, probably 2 feet wide, and who knows how long.
With this new found info, shucks, now I know what I should've done. Should've bought it, cut out siloettes (sp?) of people in dangerous poses, and hid them in the wall paneling.
Captain! He's got a gun! Pointed out the window!...
OK maybe not such a good idea. But I did hear about a guy in CA. that glued a soft drink container onto the roof of his car, just above the driver's seat. He used to get a big kick out of people trying to gesture a message, while he played dumb. Right up 'till he got a ticket from the CHP. I don't know what the charges would be, but no doubt hazardous something or another.
Oh hey, It's as good a time as any to say I think I saw my first black helicopter a couple days ago. Seriously. I always held the conspiracy theory stuff at arm's length, but this was the real deal. Maybe. It came over just above treetop level, much lower than most, but it was a very glossy paint job. Not what I imagined in this sort of situation. In fact, it looked like a real NICE paint job. Come to think of it, some of the helicopters in the tourist area are painted black on the bottom, maybe.
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Kinda makes you feel good about being a signpainter. I love those old ads. (pre-lead-free) I remember having to wear latex gloves when I painted signs whilst pregnant. They even did lead levels on me as I had been painting clueless and gloveless for many years...levels were normal. My kids turned out just fine! Love....Jill
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I love that ad!! Dale, could you have it made up into black & white poster prints?? I'd love to have one in the office!!!
(BTW . . .there's a sign-song in your topic title . . .sing to the tune of Tim Mcgraws 'Back when'
Conspiracy theory alarmists . . .don't you know? They took the lead out of the paint simply because it worked so well and lasted so long the paint industry 'fixed' the game so they'd win?
Oh wait . . .THAT'S a conspiracy too!!!
They're All in cahoots ain't they?????? I mean...the paint companies got the guv to SAY it was unhealthy and . . .
And I bet living/working in leaded asbestos buidlings, along with the consumption of red and yellow dyed foods, CAN protect you from global warming AND nuclear holocaust too!!!
But . . . now we'll never know, will we!!!!
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Being one of the "conspiracy theorists", I'd have to say that the only priority is not letting people have stuff whereby they can keep the govt. prying eyes from seeing into their living room (and bathroom and bedroom) using thermal imaging technology.
William, I know who shot JFK; I have a copy of the Zapruder tape that has been digitally enhanced by Navy Intel (shhhhhhhhhh!). It clearly shows the driver of the limo pulling a pistol out of his coat, shooting the Prez and placing the gun in the floorboard. *That* is why Jackie was trying to get out of the car; she saw who did it!
BTW, I have two quarts of white lead too but the lables are pretty ratty. It does have the big skull and crossbones on it. I've used little dollops in my Hol-Fast oil for doing smalts; makes it flow like warm honey.
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"If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants." Sir Issac Newton Posts: 3528 | From: Warner Robins, GA | Registered: Oct 2004
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The last 'old' signpainter I knew who used a lot of lead paints died of old age at 92 years in 1994. He told me they would drink a pint of milk a day, provided by the boss, as a precaution against lead poisoning.
I still use some lead based paint- mainly reds & yellows (enamel) & get a blood check annually & my lead level is actually on the lowest end of the 'standard normal adult range' so I don't know where the rest of the population gets their lead from, but it's nice to know that those spills & bits you inhale & wipe around your fingernails are pretty insignificant.
Good advert!
(James, I have a roll of lead here- we last used it for waterproofing around the stove recess of the kitchen. I also mucked around a bit once doing some casting with it. Not wonderfully successful, due to my amateurishness, but fun to try.)
Sheila, leaded fuel here is a no-no beacuse of the impact on your health. They seem to think that carcinogenic unleaded fuel is healthier for you, or else it's a move deliberately designed to reduce the world's population...
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"...there are no limits when you aim for perfection..." Jonathan Livingston Seagull Posts: 7014 | From: Highgrove via Toowoomba, Queensland, Australia | Registered: Dec 2002
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I wish that a company that I used their product and used to love. would have left it alone .. Now I would be happy with one year of that crap to hold up on trucks..
Lead rocks in Paint.. You don't like it.. become a vinyl geek.. At least that stuff will hold up better and most can't letter or stripe anyways... I have been having better luck stripin' with Rustoleum... Now there is someone who needs to get into lettering enamel.. Holds up.. Lead content who knows, I surely don't care.. If I have to wear gloves to stripe (NOT!!!) you could...
I have a big thermometer I dug up in the old dump behind my shop ( yeh that Rox all right) that reads 99 percent lead... Sign me up.. I may glow in the dark, but that's the price I pay for using the stuff.. I probably have a better chance of dying flyin my kites by the powerlines, than lead poisoning.
Well Back to plottin. that will hold..
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In talking to the one shot rep at a letterhead meet I was told that it was a lawsuit from a woman somewhere out west that bought some one-shot at a art supply store and spilled some on herself, then read the label and suied. To my understanding she lost the suit and we lost our lead.
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. . .don't you know? They took the lead out of the paint simply because it worked so well and lasted so long the paint industry 'fixed' the game so they'd win? ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
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I bet living/working in leaded asbestos buidlings, along with the consumption of red and yellow dyed foods, CAN protect you from global warming AND nuclear holocaust too!!! 
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