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Desire Rusovsky
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Is it a way to put chrome (chromium?) letters on a black banner?

Thank you!

[ August 16, 2005, 08:06 AM: Message edited by: Desire Rusovsky ]

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Yes, but don't roll it up afterwards.
Chrome has a polyester base and doesn't stretch and form like vinyl. It WILL tunnel if rolled.

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I had a bad experience with it. When the banner was installed the chrome statred to come off.

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Paint it on..... Aluminum leaf works too without the "sticker" problems.

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Doug Fielder
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Thank you for your answers.

The banner is for a rock band, it needs to be used several times in various locations. I know the problem with polyester adhesives.
Has Aluminium leaf a mirror look? and which brand could I use?

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Desire Rusovsky
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It is pretty close. It is a bright silver, looks like metal. I use the German stuff. It is pretty cheap, buy a book and try it out. Use the 1-Shot size and go to town. The alum. leaf is easy to work with too.

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Desire....just be sure you coat that banner with a 'ti-coat' before you try to leaf it! Otherwise, the size will never set up!

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Correct! Thanks Si. I always buy enamel receptive banners, slipped my mind.

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it's not suggested for outdoors, but the 'silver medal" foil can be printed on clear or white vinyl & will have the properties of vinyl instead of polyester (like ability to be rolled) but has the mirror chrome look.

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[Applause] Wow! Thank you all for your precious ideas and advices. [Thanks]

Now, I have to find the needed items in my country!
Not the easiest part of the job!

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Desire Rusovsky
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Good idea Doug, It will hold up for awile, especially if it's not in sunlight.

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Bill Modzel
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Desire, how quick do you need the leaf, I can send you a book. It is only about $7 a book, 25 sheets, 5+/- inches square. There are a couple of stripers there that should have some of the supplies, look them up and just ask.....

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Another alternative would be make a mask and spray this stuff:
http://www.alsacorp.com/paints.htm
The effect of 95% real chrome plating without the weird funhouse effect of the "chrome" vinyl.
I don't know if it is flexible, but it may be. It is an automotive finish.

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quote:
Originally posted by Doug Fielder:
Desire, how quick do you need the leaf, I can send you a book. It is only about $7 a book, 25 sheets, 5+/- inches square. There are a couple of stripers there that should have some of the supplies, look them up and just ask.....

Thank you Doug,
But [For Your Information] I'm in Switzerland! I could order silver leaf (or aluminium leaf) here, but I don't think that 1-Shot is available here . I have also no tools for gilding! Even an enamel receptive banner is not the easiest thing to find in Switzerland.

I know no signpainter here who use Gold leaf.
But I love challenges!

[Thanks] again

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Desire Rusovsky
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How hard is it to get stuff across the border?

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Doug Allen's idea will work. I've done it and not had any problems.

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quote:
Originally posted by Doug Fielder:
How hard is it to get stuff across the border?

Not really hard but expensive!

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Desire Rusovsky
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Don't know if you have it available there, but ORACAL and AVERY both make a silver leaf material that is pretty darn flexible. I have used it on banners before with no problems.

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Desire, I used to work for a company in Winterthur and we were doing gold leaf. Of course that was a long time ago, they might be all digital by now but it would be worth giving them a call and ask. You're way too far away for them to be competition, so they shouldn't have any problem with giving you information.
Its' Maler Duenner AG in Winterthur, ZH, the sign department foreman is Mario. Tell him Lotti Schwyter gave you their number.
Not sure if that will help but you can try.
Good luck.

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quote:
Originally posted by Barry Branscum:
Don't know if you have it available there, but ORACAL and AVERY both make a silver leaf material that is pretty darn flexible. I have used it on banners before with no problems.

Could you give me the reference of theese materials?
I just made a test with the 3M Mirror film, which seems also an alternative.

thank you

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quote:
Originally posted by Lotti Prokott:
Desire, I used to work for a company in Winterthur and we were doing gold leaf. Of course that was a long time ago, they might be all digital by now but it would be worth giving them a call and ask.
Its' Maler Duenner AG in Winterthur, ZH, the sign department foreman is Mario. Tell him Lotti Schwyter gave you their number.
Not sure if that will help but you can try.
Good luck.

Thank you Lotti,
But for now I will stick to the adhesive solution.
since I don't speak german it sould be a little difficult also to speak with them.

Désiré

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Desire...I am not sure what you are asking, but you can check with www.Ameriban.com

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