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Hey Todd well at least one of you has a sense of humour what the hell is a "subcompact" ???? I thought you guys drove such big cars cos you were so fat you couldn't get in a "normal" sized one?
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The only thing that this thread proves at this point is that if we eliminated all the posts that had nothing to do with an actual grasp of the basic economics of the situation,we would only have about 10 posts on here and we would have denied all those who actually have deluded themselves into thinking that posessing a different political viewpoint,living in a different location,or some quick creative use of google actually makes you both smarter and culturally a superior to the others and not a close minded ignorant asshat. Fortunatley,in cases like this peoples actual feelings and personalities do come out and they try to cover with humor their true feelings,so that they keep up the appearance of not actually being a 2 faced double talking meatsack in front of the group so that tommorrow when steve finally realizes he cant trust the usual suspects and some pilers on who dont even have conspiracy theory paranoia and delusionment to back their blind shots from the hip,everyone can pretend to like each other so much it would make an episode of Donny & Marie look like domestic violence and he'll blame himself when he has to lock it and not the long winded jackasses who want to be percieved here more as intellectuals than sign people....then we can have an apologuy thread,a thread of karo syrup cant we all just get along crapola which will carry the place right into the next one of these gems. The thing that stands out most here is we have people pinpointing the cause of every war since 1900 and definitively knowing how both political and economic policy should be handled, yet as long as they've been in the sign buisness they can't find their own fonts nor use the search button to avoid asking repetitive questions,because its easier to blame it all on computers entering the sign industry.
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With relation to cars I drive a Ford Focus TDCi, thats a turbo diesel to you folks in the US, now for some reason Ford USA don't sell any diesel variants of this car???
The base US model has a 2.0litre that has 135bhp and at best gives 32mpg.
My turbo diesel has a 1.9litre engine has 136 bhp and gives 65mpg
Both built by the same company, same design team, yet for some reason you folks in the US get engine performance and economy equal to that of a european car built in the 70's now why is that???
-------------------- Steve Broughton Alpha Grafix Signs Lowfields Road Benington, Boston Lincolnshire, England Posts: 315 | From: Boston, Lincolnshire, England | Registered: Aug 2001
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LOLOLOL. Typical-Gavin! Our very own Z entering the discussion to rant about how generally, only a handful of people are actually stating something pertinent to the topic, another handful barely even cognizant of the topic, another handful under the delusion that they are coherent and interesting, and all the rest, full of bull.
Z, I actually think you should write that statement as to be a tad more topically non-specific and simply copy and paste it on every thread that goes into excessive discussion, as it seems to be the only comment you ever make, only when not sharing from your vast knowledge of important and factual paint & solvent information.
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quote:Originally posted by Stephen Broughton: Hey Todd well at least one of you has a sense of humour what the hell is a "subcompact" ???? I thought you guys drove such big cars cos you were so fat you couldn't get in a "normal" sized one?
This is coming from a guy in a country that still drives on the wrong side of the road, just to spite all the other European nations who drive on the right.
Make as much fun of us as you like, cause if "we" hadn't left England and beat you up, "we'd" still be in "your" country, and screwing it up even more. HAHAHA.
We're not fat, we're big-boned. Go back to your mushy peas.
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Glenn that is some very good reporting! My opinion of Bush?
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quote:Originally posted by Ricky Jackson: Glenn that is some very good reporting! My opinion of Bush?
Thanks. Its a good thing Nostradamas has been wrong about a lot of things isn't it.
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{quote]Originally posted by Sheila Ferrell: To that Glenn said, 'Exactly', and went on to expound on that thought.
But I'd say, 'impossible'. Since gas prices (and a great many things) are not only economically motivated but politically motivated as well. It's all too intertwined to simplistically separate the blame from the remedy. Fixing the cause IS part (if not all) of fixing the problem. At least discussing the 'idea' of it is interesting.[/quote]
Given human nature, I have to agree.
That is why it is so important for us to get educated on how things really function so that politicians and CEO's can't pull the wool over our eyes and so that we can - regardless of political or economic affiliation - be able to tell when they are telling the truth .
With so much misinformation out there, its difficult to do, but it can be done.
Its sad when perception becomes accepted as reality without being tested first.
Being able to face difficulties without looking at them through the tinted lenses of ideology and be honest with ourselves is the first step, IMHO.
quote:" . . . it is so important for us to get educated on how things really function so that politicians and CEO's can't pull the wool over our eyes and so that we can - regardless of political or economic affiliation - be able to tell when they are telling the truth .
With so much misinformation out there, its difficult to do, but it can be done.
Its sad when perception becomes accepted as reality without being tested first.
Being able to face difficulties without looking at them through the tinted lenses of ideology and be honest with ourselves is the first step, IMHO."
Well said Glenn!
Al-ritey then, back to sign biz y'all??
Oh yeh, Glenn, thanx for gettin' my name off'a so many last-reply topics. I was feelin' a little weird about that...
. . . . . Aw' DANG! But I've done it again! UH!
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"Look like a girl, act like a lady, think like a man, work like a dog" Posts: 5758 | From: "Sweet Home" Alabama | Registered: Mar 2003
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Being the father of a boy in the armed forces, who happens to be stationed in Afghanistan, I find it particularly offensive when the President and the US are disrespected and badmouthed.
It's a free country, and Josh is over there putting his life on the line to help keep it that way, and to allow us all who wish to, the freedom to continue to disrespect and trash our country and leaders.
So, don't hold back interjecting your political view on this signmaker's web forum. But, I'd hope you keep in mind that there are parents here who get a tear in their eye when they read it.
I can tell you one thing. My son IS NOT fighting a war to keep our oil prices low. He's fighting to keep those bastards from coming over here and killing more of US! Believe that or not. I believe it and my boy believes it...and we also believe that our President believes it.
Sorry for the rant. Reading this kind of crap just ****es me off.
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Don, I got alot of respect for you from knowing you on here, and not knowing your son, I also have alot of respect for him and those like him for doing what they believe is the right thing. I decided awhile back to keep my mouth out of these posts cause I get too aggravated and say things that might cause someone grief, but please understand that there are alot of us that dont agree with this president or this war, but still respect and pray for those that are on the front lines. I quit reading anything to do with whats going on in Iraq because I cant bear to see the stories of young americans being killed every day. Ill leave it at that and hope and pray your son comes home soon.
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One other thing, price of 87 octane here jumped to 2.70 per gallon. I talked to a station owner friend of mine today, and he said one tanker full costs him 22,000 dollars. Right now, his markup is basically only paying the bills, and he already had to lay off one worker. More than likely, smaller stations will end up going out of business, especially if the price goes over 3 dollars. Older pumps wont go over 2.99 on their guages, so they have to shut them down.
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Well said JohnD,(chuckle everytime I say your name-expecting an answer from another quarter), anyways... I too am biting my tongue, enough so, I deleted my own answer earlier...as one of those in the trenches once, I can say that they/we had no say whatsoever in what we were directed to do...that is the job of the politicians, not well done in my opinion, but theirs nonetheless...the warrior is just a pawn and as he can't be held accountable for the deaths he creates, he also can't be held accountable for operations he is involved in...I pray for our troops everyday and hate the fact they are in harm's way...but, that's what they do...it's a catch 22 situation for them...my prayers are also for bringing them home, let Iraq finish solving it's problems w/o us, we've done enough already...but as long as they are there, I will support THEM and continue to pray for them and possibly some divine intervention...maybe???
-------------------- Frank Magoo, Magoo's-Las Vegas; fmagoo@netzero.com "the only easy day was yesterday" Posts: 2365 | From: Las Vegas, Nv. | Registered: Jun 2003
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Frank & Don, I totally agree with both of you. I have actually TWICE typed out my opinion on the war, & deleted it & did not post it. I did not want to get slammed for it.
Things were done differently back in WW2 also, I watch a lot of war documentaries on tv. There were protesters back then, too, I was surprised to see. But not like today.
I love my country, & I am so respectful of all the men who have fought to give us this country we have today.
It saddens me to see the women out there, too. I do not agree with women being over there fighting, I feel they should be happy to be women, & they should be kept doing other things like they did in the previous wars. Sorry, no offense, just my opinion, I am old fashioned. Let the men be men & do what they are called to do for us.
I will pray for your son, Don. You must be very proud of him! I have 2 sons, one is 21 & has been in & out of jail, & I don't know if he could join if he wanted to, but the other is 24 & said he would go if he had to. I cannot imagine how you feel, all of you who have sons or daughters in the service. I pray they will all come home safe.
And for the record, no, I do not think this war is all about oil.
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Don, I'm sorry if I've been offensive, I should be more clear in these things. At 45, I'm not by a long stretch going to be the first one they want to call to war as a soldier, but when I was younger, I was not disciplined enough for the job. I admire anybody that's together enough not only to keep from being booted out, but to withstand the rigors of combat.
As I said before, there are some things that make this situation palletable. If ever there was a case of multiple motives, I suppose this war in Iraq is one. I'm guessing that even if Bush's motives were right, he had to enlist the help of others to get the strings pulled to get the support he needed. It's those others that shouldn't be involved.
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I'd like to say that I drive a few gas guzzlers if thats what you would call them. I own four vehicles and am the only driver of them My 64 Plymouth gets around 10 miles per gallon which is real good for a 400+ horse power car, my motorhome around the same mpg and although I've got a Mercedes sedan which I only use for off roading which is necessary when I have to go home because my Astrovan can't make the 900 foot upward dirt driveway to my residence.
I never knew what Left or Right wingers or liberals meant until I read this post as a friend explained it to me but I do know that the gasoline prices are still less then the price of the 113 octane I used in the Plymouth at 5.50 a gallon.
Ever wonder what gasoline cost in Iran? I think the price went up to almost 40 cents a gallon, up from 28 cents last year, oh well.
Anyone complaining bout the cost of wood or insulation these days?
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Frank - thank you for your service to our country.
Don - thanks to your son for his service for our country.
I am very comfortably safe here in my sheltered home thanks to thousands of people I don't even know...protecting here in the homeland and all over the globe. As long as evil exists, I'm happy to know we have a strong, enviable military. Just wanted to say thanks.
-------------------- Todd Gill Outside The Lines Potterville, MI Posts: 7792 | From: Potterville, MI | Registered: Dec 2001
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Just so our Canadian friends won't feel left out, here's an article about the price of gas just for you.
Also, for anyone who thinks I'm just picking on environmentalists, there is this article from Sacbee.Com. (Use "root" and "password" so you don't have to register)
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Yes, a huge debt of gratitude to all our military people making, or standing ready to make the ultimate sacrifice with astounding bravery and patriotism.
You can be sure 99% of them understand EXACTLY what their doing & why their doing it.
As a child of a WWII vet, I have a healthy respect for the need and workings of war. Only wish I'd listened even closer to the intense stories my daddy shared.
Mr.Mc:
" . . . .but as long as they are there, I will support THEM and continue to pray for them . . . .
and possibly some divine intervention...maybe???"
Definitley, and, it's already happened. Keep The Faith.
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"Look like a girl, act like a lady, think like a man, work like a dog" Posts: 5758 | From: "Sweet Home" Alabama | Registered: Mar 2003
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Here's an email I received this morning from a person registered at this site. It makes me wonder if having real names and contact info here is such a great idea.
edit: I had posted his email flame, but not his name here. But, after going back and reading some of his posts, I decided this asshat isn't even worth getting worked up over.
Having a stranger email ya and call your kid a murderer is not the best way to start a day.
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Unfortunately, some people are just born naturally stupid and get dumber as they get older.
Just ignore him.
Regardless of one's opinion of the war or the reasons behind it, the men and women in the military and their families - Canadian, Australian, Polish, British, Japanese, American and elsewhere - deserve our respect and admiration for their efforts in this difficult situation and nothing less.
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Glenn - I concur (always wanted to say that).
Don - anyone that would send an email like that is unstable at best, a demon at worst.
I agree, real names can sometimes be a bad thing. I believe that anyone who sends a nasty or contemptuous private message or email regarding a posted topic here, should be fully prepared to see their covert "true" self exposed.
Having contact info readily at hand could conceivably open you up to all kinds of lunatics and stalkers.
I really wish you would have exposed him/her...so people know who they're really dealing with.
Sorry you had to experience that.
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That was my first thought. But, after looking back at this asshat's prior posts, I saw that he's already been outted and it's no secret what the "man" is made of, to anyone who has read his posts. He hates America. He hates Americans. And I would guess he isn't fond of the opposite sex.
All I will say for now is that he's from NS, Canada and has only made 8 posts. I tell you that much to rule out most everybody but him, and so that nobody thinks it might be a regular participant here. Just a jackoff hiding being his computer.
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Months ago, i recieved some very nasty emails from someone that fits that description, but i have never seen him post on here with that name. He IS VERY antiamerican. He was referring to a post I had made about the war.
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In the meantime, I've received several emails from various 'heads asking if he is Roger Berry from NS, Canada.
I wouldn't have dropped a name, but it appears he's been screwing with a lot of people here. And something needs to be done about it.
Steve, since we must have contact info here, as one of the rules, is there anything that can be done to protect us from this kind of harrassment? I wouldn't think being subjected to this crap would be a requirement of being on this site.
On Steve & Barb's end, about the only thing they can do is ban his ISP address. And, if they have the right script set up, anytime the culprit attempts to view this site, the script can automatically redirect him to another site of S&B's choosing. (Personally, my favorite is the CIA)
As for yourself, the first thing is to simply block him. The other is to contact his ISP and register a complaint. If he is doing this kind of silliness to enough people and they complain to his ISP, they'll enforce their EULA.
Other than that, unless he threatens anyone with physical harm, there isn't much else that can be done except to turn the matter over to Guido and Vinny.
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Bobbie, I think that must'a been the same one who e-mailed me (about a year ago) after I'd started a particular sort-of 'political' post (concerning Rather's fauxpas, (which was eradicated from the BB almost immediately)
But he'd caught the topic just prior. It seems he lurks specifically to confront anyone with patriotism pertaining to even indirect issues of the military.
He e-mailed me a senseless rant mostly full of cussin', first deriding me for posting the topic, then into some anti-american/anti-war blather. I actually wondered if it was some brain-washed 14 or 15 year old kid mimicking the spoutings of some anti-war high school prof.
I replied that I MIGHT be apt to hear him out concerning his veiws if only he could explain himself with some degree of maturity, and make real concerted effort towards relevance to the specific issue, at the very least.
He replied back with much less cursing, but still entirely void of any meaningful or interesting points, most sentences immediately trailing off into extreme ideas based on 'feelings' & opinions of non-existant 'conspiracies, and unprovable accusations, rather than any factual concrete evidence.
At that point, I'll immediately give up on anyone, and employ the SPAM button.
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Would you please bring in an asassin to take care of this ongoing thread.
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what the hell is a "subcompact" ???? I thought you guys drove such big cars cos you were so fat you couldn't get in a "normal" sized one? ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
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