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Looking for help with details of lettering a truck similar to the one pictured below.
Maybe you know someone who did these?
The customer's truck I am researching this for is a Kansas City, Mo truck. 1930 ford with a 29 oil delivery body.
Many of the "Big Companies" back in the good ole' daze had blue prints for the paint and lettering..... so for the most part these old timers were pretty uniform.
Any and all helpful information is greatly appreciated
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they didnt have blueprints...just a pounce pattern, it would have been hand drawn or blown up from a smaller drawing either with an opaque projector or done by square up sizing. as for the logos of that period that one looks pretty simple. also to keep it with the period of time it must be hand painted... got a beautiful 1951-52 ford panel delivery her in town....spent lot of money on restoring it, paint and then THEY STUCK VINYL LETTERS ON IT!!! looks like crap.....
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Joe, I'm gonna reply with the following pctures so folks here have a better idea what I'm talking about. No disrespect to your reply.
This particular job is getting a lot of attention to detail. A good portion of the tank lettering is visible enough for me to copy a pattern from but there are some discrepancies with the design for that year truck.
Some of the typical hose house graphics are even there but lack enough to get the correct terminology.
Most of the large fleets had detailed layouts for paint and lettering.... I doubt I'll get my hands on some but, a person who either drove or serviced these would have some useful info as well as possibly know who the local contractor was for the paint.
I have faith that someone here may "know a guy" that "knew a guy".... this particular set-up was built and operated right there in Kansas City.
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Call the Antique Automobile Club of America library. Ask for "Kim". She can certainly provide you pictures of the truck with the correct period signage on the side.
Tell her "Peter Gariepy" send you. (I'm an AACA National Director).
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Try contacting the Phillips 66 company or even Phillips 66 memrobilia collectors, they got to be out there. Those other descriptive pics you posted are great! I love collecting stuff like that. If it was a couple of years ago, I would call Bob Fitzgerald (Practical Sign Shop Operation author). He did lots of tankers in the old days, I think he is still alive, but don't know now that I live 6 hours away. OR contact Todd at the Letterhead Museum, they might have some of those cards and direction sheets.
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Controlled Volitility...Now that would come in handy sometimes! Ya?
John
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Mix some Geritol into paint next time and the 6's won't go lazy on you...
Looks good Geet, yup, mittens...
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Well after getting involved with a few clubs and collectors we managed about 20 some photos from the good ole daze. Enough to satisfy the trucks owner, and create some headaches for the welder (redo's). He is about half we through it now.
How did I get this job? Well after many years in this trade and an "Established Name" among the elite rustoration professional establishment. A portfolio and a resume un-equaled by any of my brethren (within one block of me) and a sister so well established within the circle of antiquarian noteworthy notables... (also she is married to a master Kentucky Muskit collector and dealer, working as chief archeologist for the dept of Navy). Armed with this mighty list of credits to my ability....
We just happened to be walking past my neighbors place and saw the rusty hulk and got to talking with the owner. He, not knowing any better, asked if I could do it. That was a year ago....
edited to say gerrytol and I don't go together.... as "full of it" as I am I don't need no "stimutantants" !... Magoo and yer holistic medicine gonna get you in deep doo doo !
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If it was my truck I would have you do it too! I love your work man! Did you get enough folks together for the Winter meet there in AZ? I will be in Vegas from Feb 22 to Mar 3, I would love to cruise down and meet up with you... I was just thinking after rereading the original posts, you could have called Mr. J or even Glen Weisgerber... they are both "in the know" about all kinds of cool stuff. The NJ, Staten/LonG Island crew are a wealth of info... There is a museum on LonG Island for carriages that has a treasure trove of info on transfers and appliques. I'ven't a clue what it is called but remember hearing about it at the Society of Gilders meet in Lancaster. Take care and PM me if you want to get together.
-------------------- Doug Fielder Fallout Grafix Port St. Lucie, FL
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Hey Doug... I know the place you are speaking of...
The Carriage Socitey of America was founded by a little old guy I got to know pretty well. Most of what is at that museum is from his estate after he passed away. He co-wrote many of the books on the subject of carriage ornamentation but took no credit. He was a master pinstriper and a wealth of info.
Any excuse to get together with the likes of Glen "Road Warrior" is well worth the trip.
Regarding the Wild West Weekend... we have no date or plans at this point. The venue to be used and the management just don't have it together.
Make a trip south here and give us a ring... we should be in town!
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