When i am doing a 2 sided sign, if the sign is small enough, i put bolts in the edge and suspend the sign so i can paint both sides and not mar the finish.
However sometimes i have to rest the sign on something and i find that often times, the paint gets "marked" by whatever i lay the sign on. I have tried towels and sheets but still i get marks in the paint. Sometimes i probably don't let the paint cure long enough but when doing multiple coats on a two sided sign, i can't afford to wait a week between coats (i use One Shot almost exclusively).
Any suggestions or solutions would be appreciated.
Thanks, Steve
-------------------- Steve Racz Racz's Handcarved Signs Posts: 1078 | From: New Jersey | Registered: Jan 2004
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i use 4-6 of those small plastic push pins...i remove the 4x8 from horses....place 2-3 push pins on each horse....then place sign on top of the pins. if there is any marks left in the paint it will only be a 1/4" dot...which you can dab with a q-tip once sign is in place.
-------------------- joe pribish-A SIGN MINT 2811 longleaf Dr. pensacola, fl 32526 850-637-1519 BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND Posts: 11582 | From: pensacola, fl. usa | Registered: Nov 1998
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I use "paint blocks" any kind of scrap with a nail (or screw)driven all the way thru. 3 or four of these under the panel will only leave a pin mark. I use the point up so the panel is less likely to slip around, I can press down a little to make sure it stays put.
We make stand-off from 5"X5" scrap MDO. I put four sheetrock screws through each piece. Lay four of these down on sawhorses, pointy side up.
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-------------------- Joe Crumley Norman Sign Company 2200 Research Park Blvd. Norman, OK 73069 Posts: 1428 | From: 2200 Research Park Blvd. | Registered: Sep 2001
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I've had this idea I've been playing with for a while now...
It's pretty much a panel saw design with some modifications.
I'm still trying to work out the sliders in the corners to make them adjustable both in height and width. The pivot points and side pins lock with thunbscrews. The leg bases would be removable so it could be leaned against a wall like an easle to save room and the whole thing can be broken down and easily portable.
Hopefully, I'll get this thing figured out before winter. Rapid
-------------------- Ray Rheaume Rapidfire Design 543 Brushwood Road North Haverhill, NH 03774 rapidfiredesign@hotmail.com 603-787-6803
I like my paint shaken, not stirred. Posts: 5648 | From: North Haverhill, New Hampshire | Registered: Apr 2003
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Ray, what if you had 2 pins top and bottom and eliminated the side pins. Holes and pins in the uprights would allow height adjustment and sliding the horizontal pins to allow width adjustment. Wheels on base would allow you to spin it around and paint back and move out of the way. Horizontals could possibly be round and use sliding collars similar to weight lifting. I like your idea--I'm gonna think on it more Ken
-------------------- Ken Holden 7 Oaks Signs 18457 Hwy 22 Ponchatoula, LA 70454 Posts: 144 | From: Ponchatoula, LA | Registered: Apr 2005
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For smaller signs I use the slick-side of vinyl backing.
I should note that the 'rubbery' texture of the Oracal backing does not work as well as 3-M or other backings.
I apply tape-tabs to the top of my saw horses and lay strips of vinyl backing-paper with the back-paper-side against the tape and the slick side up . . .this for larger signs and 4x8s too. . . . CAREFUL! The stuff is so slick the sign can slide right off if you even slightly bump it!!
We have enough 'egg-fryin' heat down here that you can lay the sign in the sun for a while and then turn it over to letter the other side.
You should be able to safely turn a sign over on the slick-paper when you can not make a clear finger-print in the finished side.
I had noticed even the faintest of surface impressions in even my hardener-activated auto paint, even within several hours of coating, when laying them on anything . . .except that slick paper.
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PS: Ray, that looks really cool! Don't forget to add (lock) wheels so it can be easliy moved aside while drying or rolled out into the sun...
(I'm all about that sun, huh?)
Wonder of you could do away with the pivots and arrange rail-sliding top and bottom clamps (2 on top-2 on bottom) that slide on angle-iron cross-peices, or extruded aluminum instead of steel-tubing?? The bottom angle iron could even have an additional ledge for laying stuff on . . . (I'm thinking of something similar to the sliding clamps that are used to stretch the material on electric signs with . . .
Ray, you fab, patent and it'll sell to those of us who don't have time to make it . . .
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"Look like a girl, act like a lady, think like a man, work like a dog" Posts: 5758 | From: "Sweet Home" Alabama | Registered: Mar 2003
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Sheila - this morning my wife and i moved the 5x10 MDO sign off the horses and i put the vinyl paper on the horses (over top of some towels for some extra cushioning). The One Shot has been curing for 2 days so i expect good results.
I also liked the nail / screw ideas mentioned above, but the paper was easiest to try.
Rapid - i need your invention. i don't have to tell you how heavy a 5x10 piece of MDO is, expecially for a 58 year old man and his skinny wife (although she's stronger than i am...).
Thanks, Steve
-------------------- Steve Racz Racz's Handcarved Signs Posts: 1078 | From: New Jersey | Registered: Jan 2004
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If you really think about it my company can imbed your artwork on a substrate with scratch and fade resistant coating that would look like you painted it on for about the same cost it would take to produce it and we supply the substrate. Basically it gives you more time to sell and let us produce. Check us out.
-------------------- Michael Britton Atlanta GA Posts: 7 | From: Atlanta | Registered: Oct 2002
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