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I don't think Danny Glover is very persuasive in his argument that WalMart is endangering the children of the world. I'm actually more suspicious of the destructive influence of Hollywood in that regard.
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I haven't yet read his link but, Todd is telling it like it is. The government of China is not our friend. But that in itself doesn't necessarily put Walmart in the wrong.
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why is it that American companies sometimes say " Buy American " while ther products are either made in China or Taiwan but on the package itself says " printed in the USA " Is this all they can afford. As I see it, this happens bigtime in the automotive and motorcycle industry and Custom Chrome is one which does just with their chopper parts and add on's. There are an extremely very few big companies that make their own parts in the USA and thats a fact. You may put your faith in some household names of what products you've used for years only to find out that they are no longer made in the USA and whose fault is that? Not that it makes a difference but the days of the manufacturers triple their cost to sell wholesale has taken a sharp turn to an exuberant percentage at the sake of the middle man. The cost to us is then double or tripled. Companies do this for themselves to save money and we as buyers of the end product aren't supposed to have a clue.
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I didn't know those things either. The last movie I remember watching, starring Danny Glover (and Danny Devito maybe?) was this comedy called "Gone Fishin'". It was hilarious. What a disapointment.
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THE SELLING OF AMERICA CONTINUES, last buyers were the JAPANESE, look at all the JAP car companies who OWN PROPERTY(and how many of you drive JAP vehicles)in the USA and also OWN BIG CATTLE RANCHES. SONY BOUGHT OUT RCA.......while all the people are locked in a debate over who is a liberal or a neocon!!!!!! we who had the greatest nation after WW2,405399 american boys gave it there all to protect this country from a couple of war mongers. those that came home and picked up that UNIFIED spirit they had in the service, of creating a place of honor and dignity thru their work ethic and set out to raise the children and their familys with the same UNITY, HONOR, DIGNITY & ABLITIY to rise above the rest. but somehow their children lost all the things the WW 2 vets held precious...and most of all the WORK ETHIC got really lost. we built one of the greatest roadway system in the world(ike 1953-60)we produced the most steel, coal, of any nation till the japanese started to buy it all..and they wound up buying the STEEL PRODUCER COMPANIES and moved them outa the country. we have oil/coal/ natural gas sitting in this country while we BUY IT ALL FROM OTHERS....and now china is "THE BUYER OF AMERICA" HOW MUCH MORE CAN WE WHORE OURSELVES.....before their is NO U.S.A.? WAKE UP PEOPLE....your going to be a SERVANT to the NATIONS that are now buying up OUR LAZY A.S.S.E.S!!!!!!! iam 60 so much future aint that long, you with children and grand children.....need to OPEN YOUR EYES.....can we(the people)be the people our fathers & freinds fought and gave their lives for...so we wouldnt be a SUBSERVANT NATION!
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Clinton signed the NAFTA. That great sucking sound?????/ yes its NAFTA and Clinton signed it
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The problem is not China. If we'd enforce our own laws the trade problem would take care of itself. Mexican laborers? If employers would do a better job of collecting proper identification that would eliminate that problem. Immigrants? You ever notice how many of the immigrants we view as problems come from countries that we have economically destroyed? You stop the trade embargo against Cuba today it will be the hottest tourist destination in the Northern Hemisphere by tomorrow.
Closing our friggin' borders against international trade is nothing but national suicide. Don't fear the Chinese, fear the fact that we are all sheep, that our founding fathers started a damn revolution over far less than tolerate out of our government now.
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-------------------- Pat Whatley Montgomery, AL (334) 262-7446 office (334) 324-8465 cell Posts: 1306 | From: Wetumpka, AL USA | Registered: Mar 2001
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"Patrick Whatley, having solved all the world's problems with his deft knowledge of all things political takes his place with Groucho Marx and Alfred E. Neuman in the hall of heroes."
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Clinton signed the NAFTA. That great sucking sound?????/ yes its NAFTA and Clinton signed it
you need to back up to 1970's...johnson(oil man)63-69(another great texan) NIXON,(i almost forgot him)69-74, you remember he was gona get impeached OR JAILED so he resigned, then FORD(nixons V.P.) 74-77 sat in and let what was left of NIXONS people finish what they were doin RAGAN-OMICS 81-89, DADDY BUSH 89-92 double digit interest rates in the USA...took away the ability to take your credit card interest as a tax deduction...ALL OF THE ABOVE....set this mess in place.....
(CLARIFACATION FOR GAVIN)(johnson left office in 69 not 68)
out of all the presidents who have been in office only 2 democrates have held office since kennedy/johnson and you want to blame all the bad econmics on clinton?(pres 93-2000) and i guess the bad peanut crops and 3 mile island disaster was jimmy carters fault?(pres 77-80) and i dont want the post locked, I DIDNT BRING IN POLITICS by naming any one party. LIKE I SAID IN THE OTHER POST... " THE SELLING OF AMERICA CONTINUES, ......."while all the people are locked in a debate over who is a liberal or a neocon!!!!!!" put this little statement between your ears...."DIVIDE AND CONQUER"....and you have it being done to you today...and your sittin back and letin it happen.
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Joey asked: why is it that American companies sometimes say " Buy American " while ther products are either made in China or Taiwan but on the package itself says "printed in the USA" ----------------------- Because they're damned liars. Er, I mean Public Relations Professionals.
What bothers me about cheap 3rd-World labor is sub-standard working conditions, sometimes virtual slavery. One reason US labor is more expensive is fairly-decent pay and safety standards. If you're injured on the job here, the boss-man can't just set you out with the trash. Lots of workers fought and died for this protection in the 19th century and well into the 20th. We could lose it, if we buy into something else.
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the world has too many complex problems to resolved here... I think I'll just name an american president to blame it all on so we can get this discussion locked up & move on to other things.. oh, someone already did that, see ya by the water cooler
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Well...all's I got to say is the Detroit Pistons are gonna kick the Spur's butts tonight---in their own stadium like they did a couple nights ago....
and when it happens it's gonna be....mmmmmm....OP's fault. (boy I sure hope the Piston's win tonight!)
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"Clinton signed the NAFTA. That great sucking sound?????/ yes its NAFTA and Clinton signed it you need to back up to 1970's...johnson(another great texan) RAGAN-OMICS, DAADY BUSH....ALL ....set this mess in place....."
Lets not get this thread pulled just yet,since Johnson left office in 68,and Reagan & Bush took office in 80,if he can somehow tie this into the 70's(which i feel sure he can),this could be one of the potentially greatest forrest gump moments in letterville history.
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I think we are so immersed in the media and Hollywood tells us as what the "Joneses" have that we may not be aware how much we could live without. I bet we could live without 75% of what we have purchased in the last 15 years, and still live very comfortably.
We can each take the initiative one by one to set an example and teach our children and neighbors to conserve at least by the action, say for instance of recycling. Have a voice, let it be heard, make it attractive to the youth and others. What's wrong with driving an older model car? Or walking or riding a bike? Why can't we reuse our glass jars to store our food instead of toxic plastic that we are all familiar with.
I do buy some things from the WM but, mostly shop at the beautiful family owned stores here. I do own a couple cloth bags, and do use the new plastic wrap stuff that holds it all together, but, I may change that too.
There are so many ways to incite a riot, why not incite some good habits? Realistically, it may take some upper hand lobbying for change, but if the consumers group together more on personal changes, then the large manufacturers will listen. It does start at home. At least I can feel as though I did a little bit, but it just doesn't feel as though it's enough until I get five other folks to recycle or conserve on energy, etc. My entire family tends to stay away from Walmart and has recycled and gardened for 30 + years.
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TODD... DONT GET ME STARTED ON HIGH PAYED NON-EDUCATED, TREE TRUNK NECKED, MUSCLE HEADS,STERIOD PUMPED, DRUG TAKING, PARTY HARD, WOMAN RAPERS, OVERPAYED idots who claim to be SPORTSMEN!!!!! basketball, baseball, are not in my line up of anything to waste away on the couch watching... at least in football.....its full contact!!! as for most of the BAKETBALL, BASEBALL guys...if it wasnt for the game thay all would be workin at MIKEY D's!!!! baseball i havent cared for after the "sportsmen" WENT ON STRIKE...yea real SPORTSMEN. my last post was done in a hurry as i was HONGRY and want FOOD...so i edited it after i ate.......
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Hello all: my name is lou Dobbs and I'm at Randy&Joy's home.There are some great comments here but it comes down to you wouldn't put all your money in one stock why would you only go to one store?I use Home depot and Rona for lumber needs.4different grocery stores,Walmart & Canadian Tire and Sears for other things.Spread the money around.No matter where you go you still have to check to see where things come from.well thanks for listening and Randy says hello.
-------------------- Randall Campbell Randy's Graphics, 420 Fairfield N. Hamilton Ontario Canada Posts: 2857 | From: Hamilton Ontario Canada | Registered: Jan 2002
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Yes they're pervasive... my anology camparing Walmart to America wasn't all bad ... Super efficient, organized, effective on the plus side lacking in social conscience on the minus side ... a fair assessment I think.
Had one open here in January, local pop 9,000 and about as far out in the north-woods and as any sane person would go.
Helps the community in that fewer people are shopping out of town, small specialty stores have actually seen an increase in sales. Hurting 2 grocery stores badly, sales down over 60%, but to be fair it's really nice to pay national pricing for frozen, canned and dry goods. Most businesses have adjusted, one business closed but she was failing anyway.
The town's restaurants and hotels have picked up as people from Churchill Falls (3hours) and Goose Bay (6 hours) are spending weekends here to shop.
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I think the whole exercise of this program really shows people about cause and effect.... those cheap prices have to show up somewhere down the line and it is in manufacturing leaving traditional areas... walmart believes its improving american standard of living in allowing people to buy more... nothing is free and as a country your starting to see it in your balance of trade....
just my .25 worth...
-------------------- Del Badry philmdesign Sylvan Lake, Alberta Posts: 636 | From: Sylvan Lake, Alberta | Registered: Nov 1998
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I can't believe I haven't posted a single thing on a thread that has over 150 replies!
Had to actually scroll through them to make sure.
Here's my reply.
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This thread has danced around the politically verboten for awhile---this oughta tear it for good.
How would you like to have your property seized under Eminent Domain for the likes of a WalMart? Thanks to a 5 to 4 Supreme Court decision in just the last day or two that could happen. It used to be that property was usually only taken for things like highway expansion or construction. Now, lower level governments can do the same thing in the hallowed name of the "greater good" or "economic development."
Right! Send the jobs---spell that as a form of economic development---overseas, then let the products made there come back to be sold to you from the site of your former property.
Gotta love it.
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Just think, Bill...If they take your house for a Walmart...then you will have plenty of money to go in there and buy lots and lots of stuff, including a tent so you can go live under a bridge!
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Walt Kelly's cartoon character Pogo Possum said a lotta years ago something to the effect that "we have seen the enemy, and he is us."
The worst part of this is the idea that your property can be taken under this expanded interpretation of Eminent Domain, and sold or given over to a PRIVATE developer.
So much for the idea of getting government off our backs.
Some developer shows up at my little corner of the world----he better pack a lunch, bring at least two knuckle-dragging types without foreheads, and come armed.
Bring on the padlock, Steve.
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-------------------- Bill Preston Fly Creek, N.Y. USA Posts: 943 | From: Fly Creek, N.Y. USA | Registered: Jan 2000
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"The worst part of this is the idea that your property can be taken under this expanded interpretation of Eminent Domain, and sold or given over to a PRIVATE developer."
Been there twice...arghhhh...lost both times...arghhhh.
Now, it's more legal and easier to do, the practice it's self, has been around for awhile, till now, they hid their dirty little faces, only leaving footprints, usually, across your back...(Walmart was one, I was on wrong end of one of their grabs in Az.)
"Some developer shows up at my little corner of the world----he better pack a lunch, bring at least two knuckle-dragging types without foreheads, and come armed." Need some help Bill? I can stop at Walmart on way in and get my own tent and stuff.....
Seriously...now is time to be sure that your will is in good order, after your gone, heirs could experience an almost unstoppable flow of events such as this. I'd make sure in trust form, in my opinion, the only way to ensure the dirty little bean counters don't end up w/it, using a loop hole...or at least, give heirs enough ammo in legal paperwork to fight such attempts.
Other than that, Si, going to have any extra room in culvert # 345? I'll have my own tent!!!
I suggest s'ghetti.....got sauce?
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My brother-in-law lives in Sharon, Pa. He had just bought his house, began remodeling it, then found out that there would be a highway right through his front yard for the new SUPER WALMART traffic. They bought out a couple of his neighbors, but routed the road right across the front of his house. Nice, huh?
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