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Barry...no problem in mentioning what works for you! Just stop banging us over the head with it! Once you make your point, then shut the #$%@ up and quit knocking the merchants!
OK! You like to argue! Fine! This isn't the place for it! Get on Chat late at nite, Old Paint would love to argue with you! He can talk nonsense with the best of them!
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Brushasaurus on Chat Posts: 8831 | From: La Mirada, CA, USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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He might not be available for a few nites,walmart is enslaving him and forcing him to live in the company compoubd against his will,better see how that one pans out first
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quote: I don't want to be part of the dummmy audience for the Ron Ropiel's of the sign industry.
You may not feel like you are knocking him.. But it looks like it from here..
Also, Since I gave testimony for RT does that make me a dummy?
er.. don't answer that...
by the way,, Id like to have my hand in popiele's 100 million.
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Roger makes the best damn bowling ball cleaner I have ever used... bar none. It is safe for plastic, urethane, not to mention proactive and reactive resin balls.
Knockout... it should be the choice of champions!
-------------------- Bruce Bowers
DrCAS Custom Lettering and Design Saint Cloud, Minnesota
"Things work out best for the people who make the best of the way things work out." - Art Linkletter Posts: 6469 | From: Saint Cloud, Minnesota | Registered: Jun 1999
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I don't do alot of wet applications I use to use Shaklee Basic H. I still have 3/4 of a bottle left. I never had any problem with it.
I still don't do very many wet applications. I use Rapid products now because Roger has supported my past two meets with product and a monetary donation. I have had no problems with Rogers product either. I do LOVE the smell of it. Thanks Again Roger
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"OK! You like to argue! Fine! This isn't the place for it! Get on Chat late at nite, Old Paint would love to argue with you! He can talk nonsense with the best of them!" and who do i consider the best...well heel the crowd at late nite chat....hahahahahahahahahah
-------------------- joe pribish-A SIGN MINT 2811 longleaf Dr. pensacola, fl 32526 850-637-1519 BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND Posts: 11582 | From: pensacola, fl. usa | Registered: Nov 1998
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Barry and Todd, you guys don't know me very well(I'm sure you think you do), you see me as a high preasure salesman.
Well heres some of what drives me; I built a biz. in 1987 with my half brother, he sold out soon after the first year (not makeing enough bread), I hung in there cause I believed in the product and my own business ethics.
I have talked to end users by phone and in person nearly every weekday since 1987, answering questions that sometimes dosn't even pertain to my products, thats important to me.
I care just as much about people getting the benefit of my products as I do getting my money from the sales, it bothers me when I find someone using my product incorrectly, cause thats my pride in all of this.
I went thru 5 slim years workin hard (NEVER compromising on the product quality)we added more quality products to our line (but only those that were safe to use and had great benefits to the users).
I gave away FREE samples from day one, now I give away 15 to 20 thousand dollars per year .
I have always believed in "sharing the wealth" thru sponsering letterhead meets, seminars, trade shows (always with FREE samples and support money) we sponser rase cars, boats, carts, jet skis, snowmobiles. I'm not a rich man, I'm comfortable, and proud of it for the effort I put in for many years.
I'm sure you have noticed I NEVER start a thread about my products, and as well, I NEVER tell anyone that wet is the only way (proof of that is on my website).
People like yourselves make statements about what I say or have said (just like Todd trying to make it sound as though I said Rapid Tac works in "subzero weather temperatures") JUST NOT TRUE, period.
Barry, the people here are not defending me (I think they know I can take care of myself quite well)they are trying to nicely tell you that your obvious intent to discredit me and my products is gettin old.
I also feel there is some negative feelings left over from the confrontation between me and your friend "Brien the brush".
Hey, I'm sure Brien is someone who has givin a lot of help to the folks in this industry too, but maybe its time to move along now, let the past be the past.
I'm ALWAYS going to chip in my opinion (and my FREE samples) when someone posts a comment and more over, a question regarding jobs relateing to my products, you will not change that, ever.
So, try and understand, no one is telling you you have to do or use anything, but I will tell anybody about the detriments of using the wrong things (as do the film manufacturers).
Thats just good advise and should be shared.
Roger
-------------------- Roger Bailey Rapid Tac Incorporated 186 Combs Dr. Merlin Oregon 97532 Posts: 3020 | From: Merlin Oregon | Registered: Dec 1998
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Roger, I still think your company makes the best bowling ball cleaner I have ever used. I have used it on my plastic and urethane balls, as well as my proactive and reactive resin balls with outstanding results.
I was so impressed with the sample I got, I bought a case. I still have four bottles left and you can bet I will be buying another case. It works great.
Thank you for making a great product!
-------------------- Bruce Bowers
DrCAS Custom Lettering and Design Saint Cloud, Minnesota
"Things work out best for the people who make the best of the way things work out." - Art Linkletter Posts: 6469 | From: Saint Cloud, Minnesota | Registered: Jun 1999
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...well before we all really tire of discussing the Ron Ropiel's of the sign industry
quote:Originally posted by roger bailey: ...the people here are not defending me (I think they know I can take care of myself quite well)...I'm ALWAYS going to chip in my opinion...
yeah & when your opinion is some misplaced monkeysh*t fight at the zoo that comes out of left field attacking your own imaginary demons... you take care of yourself quite well allright... by disregarding Steve's public request to clean up your BS post & ignoring 2 IM's from me questioning a completely unprovoked attack... you showed me that you care of yourself quite well by burying your head in the sand!
Don't get me wrong... RT products are great but it's a good thing your products speak for themselves, because now that I've seen how the man behind them handles himself... well, anyone want a used hat?
...OK y'all can get back to singing yer praises again.
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seriously though, Roger...I've done nothing but PICK at you...name one thing I have said to DISCREDIT anything you sell?
Do I have to go back up and quote myself? I said it before, and I will say it again, I am sure that all the products you offer are good ones, or you wouldn't still be doing what you do as well as you do, but I also believe that there's hype to it too. Rapid Tac won't cure cancer, no matter what some folks claim.
That said, you talk about me not knowing you.....well I find that to be pretty frickin' presumptuous considering your cracks about "BriEn the Brush"....I have to question where you got that particular MISinformation, but I have some pretty good ideas (those who know what I mean know who I'm talkin' to)...But I will say it definitively: "I HAVE NEVER EVEN MET the man. I don't know him, anymore than I know DOug Allen, with whom I have exchanged a few emails from time to time, that's it!
Could be, Rog, and unnamed source, that BriEn and I, or whoever, just happen to have the same opinion on things. That doesn't make us buddies.
It doesn't make us some sort of conspiracy gangig up on you to "discredit your products".
The stuff works, you have near universal acclaim, and seems that the overwhelming majority of folks think you hung the moon!
Why then get so defensive, just 'cause lil' ol' me, and a few others, use something else?
I NEVER said, Rapid Tac SUCKS, or RT doesn't work...but you sure did--about the stuff I use here. Lumped it in with "Amway"...who's trying to discredit whaT?
Hugh asked what folks use. the predictable and most widely expected answer to that is RT. The guy's just gettin started...he's in the UK, trying to watch his pennies, and RT is pricey over there, Basic H ain't. It works, and well from my own personal experience, even if RT has it whipped in the smell good department, so I offered it to the guy as a much less expensive option. We exchanged emails, he was happy, his questions were answered--he's obviously interested in RT too--and I honestly don't care what he uses, so why all this?
I never got personal Roger..I was always "Just playin". Why don't we quit before we get started ere, whaddaya say?
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"Cracks about Brien the Brush" ??????? WHAT? Now what are you talkin about Barry ?
Spin,Spin,Spin.
Let me see if I have this right; 1- I'm attacking you and Brien ?
2- Somehow using Amways' name next to Shaklee means I'm talkin derogitory ?
3 stateing that I have been applying "preasure sensitive films" for 40 years now, means I'm insulting your 20 year failure free acclaim ?
4- I go around making large untrue claims about my products ?
5- You think I am allowed to post advise or opinions or comment on my products far too much ?
6- (last but not least) do I understand you think you are just "playin with me" ? Huuummmm?
So if your neighbor started in on how overpriced your signs are, and how he thinks you shouldn't bother people by passing around your business cards or flyers, or talkin about some sign work at church, well you get the point. I think you may be a little annoyed with this kind of treatment from your neighbor, and you probably wouldn't see it as "playin" Know what I mean Barry ?
Now quote me on this , these are all questions and opinions, so quote me right, PLEASE !
Roger
-------------------- Roger Bailey Rapid Tac Incorporated 186 Combs Dr. Merlin Oregon 97532 Posts: 3020 | From: Merlin Oregon | Registered: Dec 1998
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1. I never said you were attacking me. Do YOU consider what you're doing an attack?
2. Lumping Shaklee in with Amway is an attempt to generalize a specific product...piggybacking off of the general negative opinion of MLM's in general
3. I never claimed to have a 20 year failure free claim. As far as wet app'in' goes, I've only got 12.
4. Dunno what you're talking about.
5. Dunno about the allowed to part, but you are verbose and loquacious.
6. I AM just playing. Do you wanna fight?
UNNUMBERED: Unfair analogy. We aren't in competition. I never said ya shouldn't do it. I jsut said "Gee you do it A LOT"
Besides I HAVE neighbors like that...who say I'm far too pricey. ANd God love 'em for it. I KNOW what I make and I know what it's worth. I still dominate the region in terms of sign production (that ain't really sayin' much), so stick and stones and all that...blah blah blah.
Roger, you rule the roost on all things wet and...sticky, trust me! I ain't hurting RT. Heck you should pay me for this kinda exposure.
Now, let's smile and nod and go play somewhere else like good boys.
quote: I mess with Roger cause he pops up EVERYWHERE! If the whole site were filled with "merchants" as verbose as Rapid Rog, what kinda board would this be?
You sit around and bitch about vendors who WON'T come to the board and answer people's questions about products, problems, whatever and then when we do have someone like Roger who is here, readily available, offering free samples, hats, etc you lambast him. Make up your freakin' mind.
If you like the product, use it and help pass the word that it's a great product. If you don't like a product or have had a SPECIFIC problem with it, mention the problem in the SPECIFIC context in which you had the problem. Do NOT criticize a product that you do not even use.
quote: Awright fine! I admit it! I just like to argue!
So go buy a mirror and argue with it. Did it ever dawn on you that the rest of us are tired of listening to your inane rantings?
Instead of having some respect for the fact that Steve and Barb have been going through some MAJOR stuff this week, you have added to the problem. Do you think that Steve needs anymore stress in his life????? He had a device implanted into his heart on Monday in the hopes that he will be able to stay alive!!! Do you realize that you are adding to his problems?!?!?!
I have resisted replying to this thread for days but I refuse to keep my mouth shut any longer. Maybe you should try keeping yours shut though - might be a refreshing change. Come on back when you have something positive to say. Don't bother flaming me, I'm not interested.
-------------------- Kimberly Zanetti Purcell www.amethystProductivity.com Folsom, CA email: Kimberly@AmethystProductivity.com
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Thanks Kim. Very astute and incisive comments there.
In reply, NO. I complain when STEVE bars them from responding till they've ponied up.
Ya think that is attracting merchants?
anD AS FOR roG. i NEVER CRITICIZED THE PRODUCT, i DIDN'T EVEN CRITICIZE him. It all started when I discovered it wasn't PC to endorse an app solution that was not bought and paid for. This thing continued for what 2 days without me having to post a bloody thing, so don't be laying it all on me.
As for criticizing....I have never spoken to anyone here in as insulting a fashion as you just did me...so you might be the one needing a mirror to rant at.
I know ya don't like me Kim, but god loves ya anyway.
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I'm not re-joining this debate, however I would ask that Roger spell Brian's name correctly. It seems purposefully degrading to misspell a man's name.
A man's name is very important to him....and proper debate etiquette includes respecting the person, if not their opinion.
Since Brian isn't here to defend his honor, you can at least spell his name correctly.
If this is an argument instead of a debate...then I suppose etiquette is of no consequence.
Even partisan members of congress address each other as "my dear friend from....."
You didn't see George Bush publicly calling Al Gore "Hal" Gore or vice versa during their debates.
Here ye, here ye....this has been a public service announcement from Potterville.
-------------------- Todd Gill Outside The Lines Potterville, MI Posts: 7792 | From: Potterville, MI | Registered: Dec 2001
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Kimberly, you are one of those I respect the most around here, but I have to respectfully disagree with a few points.
First I don't see the inconsistancy in Barry's contributions on the 2 threads you mention. He wanted another vendor to continue a discussion that a repeat appearance by the vendor seemed strangely overdue... only to find out that vendor was not being allowed to revisit the discussion. Rog is never guilty of being strangely overdue from revisiting a discussion... not that there'e anything wrong with that...
second, I think Rog, & even your post (& mine) are all guilty of fanning the fire here... but this is a discussion forum, with a lot of people... & lots to discuss... people do not all agree. It is hard work for a moderator & I sincerely pray for Steve to have the best possible outcome with the health challenges he faces, as I'm sure Barry does... as I'm sure you know.
I really don't think anyone should try to judge who or what is contributing to his life threatening health challenges, rather then just contributing to a discussion.(albeit one going nowhere)
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I just gotta know....do you guys purposely wait until Steve is down to spout this **** because you know you can get away with it, or are you really like this all the time and Steve babysits and removes posts to spare us from all this crap???
This is not the first time this has happened.
quote: As for criticizing....I have never spoken to anyone here in as insulting a fashion as you just did me...so you might be the one needing a mirror to rant at.
Now, at least that is funny!!
Suelynn
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Suelynn Sedor Sedor Signs Carnduff, SK Canada Posts: 2863 | From: Carnduff, SK Canada | Registered: Nov 1998
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