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.....so does this mean Cadlink is not watching any more?
-------------------- Chuck Gallagher Pro Graphics Signs by Design Cabool, MO 417.962.3291 "I grew up in Letterville" Posts: 776 | From: Cabool, Mo. USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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Probably chuck, that's exactly what it means.
Curtis,
If you look at Robin's post above Huberts...you can see that Corel is mentioned only in response to what Robin had to say.
I'll go you that it's a gray area, but the guy was responding to the queries of folks on the thread.
That said I'd hate it if EVERY merchant "advertised" as much as Roger Bailey! I like Roger just fine, I guess, but the main reason I like to pick at him is he pops up everywhere!
THREAD: I got warts on my MDO!! ROGER: Put some rapid tac on it quick!!
Now that's a joke, and I meant it as such...but you know what I mean. If this place turned into a freakin' marketplace where every lil thread had somebody who coughed up five hundred lousy bucks or whatever could holler all they wanted--well I don't think that'd be cool.
Now that hasn't happened and I don't think it will...but that leads us to another gray area: the fact that this is Steve's Profession these days, and he can run it however he sees fit, while on the other hand, a lot of its success is due to so many of us making it into a second home of sorts to--its personal to varying degrees.
So yeah, there is a level of frustration when personal and business scrape each other..and this is one of those moments.
I don't think you're gonna win them to merchant status with the "you can't talk till ya pony up" method...not my idea of a sales approach, but hey it's business--and Steve's at that.
Why not offer some of these big fish a trial 90 day membership or something...and promote them during that time...and if they benefit from the exposure, and want to buy in to a contract then hey, there ya go, and if not, what's the loss? A little bandwidth? OP will take it up anyway, talking about his bad construction projects and golden showers...(wink, wink, nudge, joe)
I dunno...I just find it frustrating.
[ June 14, 2005, 10:36 PM: Message edited by: Barry Branscum ]
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Fortunately there are other sign forums that allow and welcome participation from vendors to answer questions and join in discussions. Most reps are aware of the boundaries, and know not to overstep the mark by blatant ramping or promoting. It's not all that often that you need to discuss specific topics (such as this original post). It's good to be able to go to a sign forum and post a software specific question, and know that you can get answers from users all round the world, and even from the developers themselves.
Unfortunately here, you get opinions from people who don't even use the product, and the people with the knowledge and willingness to share are silenced.
-------------------- Neil Riley Riley Signs Adelaide, South Ozzz Posts: 157 | From: Adelaide, South Australia | Registered: Nov 1998
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Of course they are watching Chuck! Everyone watches Letterville.
You have it backwards Neil. Ask a question here and you will hear from people using the tools in the real World. We're not here to sell anything other than Letterheads. Advertisers are welcome to take advantage of our huge traffic, but we are not sponsored by anyone. That means no conflict of interest.
Another plus. All Letterville users willingly use their real names. If you suspect the advice you are getting is false, it's simple to contact the people with the info. We even get together in person several times a year.
I'm tickled pink with Roger Bailey. Where else are you going to get the instant support he offers and free samples to boot? I wish all our Merchants took Letterville as serious as their other advertising media. I think it's too inexpensive. It takes real guts and belief in your product to meet your customers in a public forum like this.
Don't expect me to apoligize for the way Letterville functions. It's far from perfect, but I'm damn proud of it and our users.
[ June 16, 2005, 04:01 AM: Message edited by: Steve Shortreed ]
-------------------- Steve Shortreed 144 Hill St., E. Fergus, Ontario Canada N1M 1G9 519-787-2673
quote:Originally posted by Neil Riley: Fortunately there are other sign forums that allow and welcome participation from vendors to answer questions and join in discussions. Most reps are aware of the boundaries, and know not to overstep the mark by blatant ramping or promoting. It's not all that often that you need to discuss specific topics (such as this original post). It's good to be able to go to a sign forum and post a software specific question, and know that you can get answers from users all round the world, and even from the developers themselves.
Unfortunately here, you get opinions from people who don't even use the product, and the people with the knowledge and willingness to share are silenced.
..that's damn accurate IMO "you get opinions from people who don't even use the product, and the people with the knowledge and willingness to share are silenced." ...ain't backwards at all.. it's exactly what just happened.
I see the advertisment element going on too... but if "It takes real guts and belief in your product to meet your customers in a public forum like this" how can you invite prospective merchants to reply here & expect them to not let their "belief in their product" show through?
hmmm "Management---bottom line, even if their point of view is short sighted." gotta go with Bill on that one too