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Doug Phillips
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Anyone want to take this one on?
This is for my brother in-laws' aircraft repair hanger and will be fairly large 20-24' long. He requested the hanger name be primary.
I've spent about 20 min and this is what I have so far.

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This is the "flavor" I'm looking for but could use some help.
I plan on a different insert in the circle. The small text reads "rags to rivets".
I'd like a better way to handle the text in both areas (less distortion or font choices?).

Any input or examples appreciated.

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Doug Phillips
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That star needs to be a propeller..

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[Smile]

I like it! Very art-deco looking!

How bout some 'hex' shaped bolts or 3-D looking rivets placed strategically around for that 'machine' look??
And a coupl'a more 'folds in a banner which has 'two-point-ends?


...woe....that's enough design exercise for one day. Now I gotta go to run up and down a ladder . . . . [Roll Eyes] [Big Grin]

[ June 02, 2005, 07:20 AM: Message edited by: Sheila Ferrell ]

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...As is, that design would look good on a T-shirt. On an airplane hangar the small copy will be unreadable. Is it necessary?

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Doug,
I like the design - 2 suggestions, however: 1. make the 3 lines on each side of the logo into a stylized wing (if that's not too cliched) and 2. "Hangar" is spelled with 2 A's.

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Doh! #1
Hanger is what you hang your clothes on and a Hangar is a shed like structure.
That's what I get for following his sketch and relying on spell checker!
Doh! #2
"No See'em" should be "no-see-um". I checked Encarta online to varify this one so it's their fault if I get it wrong. [Wink]

I need a beer! Back shortly.

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Doug Phillips
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The no-see-um could be spelled any which way they want, as it's more or less slang.

(Actually, it's they're business, so they can spell hanger "hanghir" if they want and the check don't bounce.)

I like Sonny's idea, as usual..but would add on to that the circle being a propeller instead. "Rags to" at the top of the circle/arc and "Rivets" at the bottom. This leaves room for those words to have larger letters, and gives you a nice space for a prop to break thru the circle.

I might make the ends of the ribbon more "ribbony". They look a bit stiff. And maybe a "3D" star on the ends of the ribbon to add a little interest.

Not sure about using Britannic for the secondary copy. Sans serif is good, but thick and thin is probably harder to read unless you beefed it up.

Also, the red with the thick black outline looks awfully heavy above the other elements.

That's my 2¢. Looks like a fun sign. Other than the copy inside the circle being too small to serve any purpose, and the spelling, the design is ready to go as is.

Dozen people would do it 12 different ways.

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A propeller taking the place of the three horizontal stripes.

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Doug,
This has absolutely nothing to do with your post, but just thought I'd tell you that I was wearing a "Humpy's" t-shirt in Sevilla Spain recently, and 2 guys came running up and insisted on buying us a beer. One of them was wearing his Humpy's shirt too. Small world.

If you've ever been to Anchorage, you've probably been to Humpy's......

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Ok, I feel better now [wipe beer foam from mouth].
Here is the revised version.

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I tried a few variations trying the propeller idea but I couldn't make it work (looked goofy).
Tried making the three lines to look wing like (liked it), but ended up flipping them over so they would fill the space better.
Changed the layout of the ring text and changed the star.
I notched in the ends of the ribbons a tad and added an ivory inline.
Changed the secondary font.

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Doug Phillips
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The copy inside the circle is still illegible. It could be quite a bit larger and fit, but the outside circle will probably need to be larger.

So far as the secondary copy, it's not all that easy to read yet. What you might try is increasing the kerning space on that line. It's just way cramped.

Overall, looks a whole lot better!

(Ya can tweak a sign design till the cows come home. It is done when you say it's done.)

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I like your style Doug!

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Agreed, Chuck!

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Doug, I like both. It's like trying to choose between chocolate or cheesecake. You have quite a way with designing!
I do prefer the second design because I think that secondary copy reads better with the curvier distortion.
Love....Jill

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Doug...I like the sign layout in general...but there's too much "all-cap" text in my opinion....

Especially the "Tech Air" line...it's a ****er to read. Somehow, the font + the all caps seems to make that line all run together visually...like one long word.

The circular text doesn't bother me one bit personally...it's a very secondary element and I don't think it needs to be bigger or changed at all.

I like the dimensionality of the star...and would like to see the same style tied in with the 'No See-Um" text...with the gray and white dimensional effect - - leaving the heavy black border to make it pop.

Funny how we all see things a little differently, eh? [Wink]

I really like the the sign section below the 'ribbon.'

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The copy inside the circle isn't totally illegible - you can still tell that "rivits" should be "rivets"!!! [Big Grin]

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Minor thing....the outer border doesn't match the radius of the red circle.

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Personally, I like the feel of this design. The art deco look is very cool. I would have used a propeller in instead of the star, but that's me. The background panel shape is just too cool.

Hey, what do I know... I'm just a sign painter. [Wink]

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I don't spend nearly enough time on the portfolio page, but just left there. Doug consistently does some very cool stuff!

And that he does mostly screened tees makes his design samples even more impressive. Designing tees requires an additional skill to sign designing...speed. Speed in sign design in not unimportant, but it's "make or break" in the tee biz.

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What?!?!? No gradient shades, beveled letters, or drop shadows? [Wink]

You did good, Doug!

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Doug Phillips
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Sonny, you need a "Chilkoot Charlies" or "Skinny Dick's Halfway Inn" tee shirt too, the're usually good for a beer as well! [Wink]

Jill, I'll take cheesecake...no wait...! [Smile]

Todd, I tried it in "title case" and it does work that way as well.
I think when you shrink the design and convert it to jpeg it loses a lot of detail and legibility. It does look and read better as the original file.

Don, Thanks for the kudos, after seeing your work it means a lot!
I plan on changing the border to match the circle since I'm still in "sketch mode" I and still playng with ideas I left it for now.

Janet, You win the prize! I did change that right after I posted the second pic yesterday. I was hoping no one could see it after the initial spelling fiasco! [Smile]

Bruce, thanks for the compliment, I seem to be in retro mode lately -- time for another logo exercise!

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