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Lotti Prokott
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This is something that has been helpful to me when I have to paint complex pictures.
Some may be laughing at me for this, but that's ok [Cool]

I really don't consider myself an artist but people bring me the weirdest things to paint, so I need all the help I can get.

I usually work from a digital picture or find one as a reference. So when there is something like a face for example, I choose a light, dark and medium coloured area of the picture then I zoom in until the pixels are about 1/4 inch on my screen.
I choose one pixel, zoom in some more, and mix that colour, which is now much easier to identify. I do the same with the other areas until I have three different colours to start the painting with: main colour, shades and highlights.

You can't really get an exact match to a colour on the screen but it still speeds things up for me as it increases my chances of getting the painting "right" the first time. Anybody else ever done that?

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Lotti Prokott
Woodland Signs
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James Donahue
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I've never done it, but in this trade, the more tricks you have up your sleeve, the better. This is another one. [Applause]

At one point, years ago, I wanted to get a precision digital scale, something that could weigh down to one drop of paint. Then, record the amounts of paint used for certain colors, and write the formulas down, along with a smear of the paint. Probably more time consuming than it's worth. [I Don t Know]

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Jeff Ogden
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Wow Lotti...what a great tip. It's so obvious now that you are mentioning it, but I've never thought about doing that.

I've been matching letter colors with a close-up of the fill flyout in Corel...That works pretty good...even tho the colors on the screen are so much more vibrant. Zooming in on colors in a picture sure makes sense. I'm going to try that.

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Jeff Ogden
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your soo cute....i will try it "just" to be sociable ! thankZ

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mark zilliox
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James,

It's not all that time consuming. It just depends on how exacting you want to be. I used to work in a shop that had a scale down to .001 for ink mixing. Using that system, once a color was found it would ALWAYS look the same, every run, every time. Worth it if you have the client base for it.

Mark

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Mark Sheflo
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A-Squared Signs, LLC

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Don't forget that most of the high end sign programs and Illustrator can "search" and return the closest match to a color library for you. Plug in how close you want it and in our case with pantone solid library, it's an easy mix from there. (with a scale) We use if for the same method, to get the primary mixing colors when doing a specialty color.

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Lotti Prokott
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Yeah that's nice, Mark Z, and when exactly are we going to see those fotos of yours, now that you know how to upload them, hmmm??? [Razz]

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Lotti Prokott
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Do you wait for the paint to dry on your monitor and remove it with a razor blade?

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Sounds like a great idea! I will try it out.

Peace out,
Bob

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Bob Kaschak
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Lol, Rick, I actually have been scraping paint off the screen because the static will suck it right off a mixing stick if you try to hold that anywhere near the screen [Roll Eyes]

Of course this isn't a scientific method to arrive at a certain Pantone colour, but try zooming in on a face and you'll know what I mean: There you will find surprisingly dark orange tones, pinkish white and (gasp) dark, dark rust tones. Not at how I think it should look like.

Here's the point: I have a preconceived idea of what skin colour (as an example) looks like, but the bigger my painting (think murals) the less I can rely on on those ideas.

If I start out with the colours I have isolated in the image I have a better chance that it will look right from a distance. As a sign painter we can not paint the way a fine artist would, we have to think distance and that means you have to use contrasts that may look unatural from close up. I always have to bend my mind around that.

But the main reason is that by looking at one colour at a time, I can much easier figure out how to match it. I used this method first when I had to paint from a black and white picture and decided to use sepia colours instead. I wasn't at all sure how to mix them, so I found myself a nice sepia photo on Google, isolated and mixed several different tones which I used accordingly for the gray tones of the photograph.

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Lotti Prokott
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Ernie Balch
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We have a paint mixing guide. It's like a set of pantone colors with the paint mixing formula printed on the back of each color.

ernie

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Ernie Balch
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Ernie, can it be used with OneShot paint?

where did you get that guide?

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Lotti Prokott
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COLORTONES color selector and formula guide (from 1991) Works for bulletin and lettering enamels. We bought it from someone on the bullboard. You will have to find a used copy.


Check the dicussion from a couple of years ago:
http://www.letterhead.com/ubb-cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=020542

ernie

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Ernie Balch
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Dale Horn
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Lotti, I have a couple of those mixing guides if you need them.

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