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mitch maciel
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okay, so my church asked me to put a sign up in front of the building to cover the old sign. its going to be relatively simple, three colors in 1shot.

i've never done anything this big that is going to be out in the elements, (the building is 2 blocks from the beach), and i'm not real versed in materials. so what would be a good choice??
what factors should i take into account?

i could really use some advise.
thanks.

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How big is it and what is the old sign made of?

[I Don t Know]

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it is going to be 60"x36" (roughly).
the old sign is a 60+ year old carved wood sign mounted between two posts stuck in a planter box.
we do not want to molest the old sign, so i figgered a way to mount the new sign to the posts without doing any damage.

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My suggestion would be MDO...just be sure to use the 2sided and seal the edges real well. (Commercial Sign Supply, in Long Beach...has the good MDO... and will even cut it to size for you)
Since it is near the beach, use stainless steel screws to mount it!

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Hi Mitch,

My first thoughts:

A 60 year old sign could be a cool restoration project, but if the wood is not good enough (i.e. rotted), why keep it as part of the new sign?

Anyway, you could use Dibond, cut it to the same shape as the old sign and attach it right over it. It won't rot and add hardly any thickness to the sign. It wouldn't add all that much weight either.

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thanks wendy.
actually the sign is pristeen. i'm guessing it was re-done in the last few years.
since we lease the building, the original sign stays.....you know the rest of the story.

thanks si!.
called tony and he has what i need. great. so now, what about a white basecoat?? what is the hot ticket??

and how would a guy go about sealing the MDO??

thanks again guys!

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Hiya MAS,
It would depend on the shape of the sign and the tools you have, but I would suggest aluminum. If it's just a square sign and you have a sheet metal break, I would bend the aluminum to just wrap around the sign. The fasten like Si said. Stainless screws all the way.

If there's any kind of shape to the sign, M.D.O. would be quick and easy.

HAvin' fun,

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Another vote for the DiBond here.
Already white, no edge sealing, light and easy to shape ... or bend like Checkers said by grooving the folds.

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Her name is Lotti. [Bash]

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Thank you, Randy, but I didn't mind.

Among others I have been called Lori, Lofty, Lucky and, well....worse. [Roll Eyes]

So let's bury the hammer, ok? [Smile]

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OOOOPS!

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Mitch 'MAS' Maciel
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I'll go with Lotti on this one.

For me church signs should be more familial, traditional and soft on the eye. Kind of like going home again. I'm not much on plastic looking and steel looking signs on churches.

I can see it now, churches and funeral homes in the future will all have stainless steel letters on Di bond.

J

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Hey Mitch, I just got back from a road trip to the Interior, Nelson, B.C. and noticed not one, but 2! signs, the substrate being used was a Satellite Dish. One for Hay for Sale, another for a Towing Company.

Now that's recycling!

John

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hatchet... "bury the hatchet" (OK... you probably knew that [Smile] )

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