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Hi everybody and best wishes for this new year.
Last month i have painted a sign on the rear glass of a friend's car with 1-shot and today almost all the paint is gone. I want to redo it but can you help me to know what must i do to make it more durable than one month. Maybe 1-shot is not good for painting on glass, but here i still don't have found paint for glass. Thanks a lot for your help.
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I don't know of any paints that are going to stay on the back of a car window, no matter how well you clean it. At least for any extended period of time. Paint doesn't bite into glass. Scraping snow and ice and not to mention those little heat lines in the glass are going to spell death to a lettering job. In 1 month's time 1 Shot would not have cured out yet. A car window on a slant is going take the rath of pressure washing and mother nature.
Consider painting somewhere else on the car.
-------------------- Bill Diaz Diaz Sign Art Pontiac IL www.diazsignart.com Posts: 2115 | From: Pontiac, IL | Registered: Dec 2001
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Besides Bill being correct on a number of the issues, you'll have to remember that automotive glass is way different then window glass.
I am a vinyl hater in most cases other then using it on automotive glass. If paint is what is needed, first lay down vinyl on the glass then use paint over it and cut up to it using an X-acto, we do it all the time.
-------------------- HotLines Joey Madden - pinstriping since 1952 'Perfection, its what I look for and what I live for'
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Ray Smith "el varga" a striper has painted on glass on his 56 pontiac wagon and the biggest thing he has told people is using a pro body shop glass cleaner thats leaves no resiude. But again depending on the abuse that the window is going to recieve, from snow and ice scrapers. how about paint on the inside of the window or use reverse stickers on the inside. that will stop the problem of scraping and washing.
-------------------- PTSideshow, been there, probally done that. Wizard Works Show Supply Magic Props FX Signage Banners Ect. Posts: 120 | From: Mount Clemens,MI,USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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I learned from an old signwriter years ago to treat all windows alike, no matter, use same prep steps each and everytime and the paint will have a better chance of stickn' long term. Take a one-sided razor and using single strokes, clean window, then with a bon-ami bar, wash window and follow up w/windex. Then letter w/one-shot and let dry good and polish w/automotive polish, it will now withstand most elements out there, save physically disturbing it.
-------------------- Frank Magoo, Magoo's-Las Vegas; fmagoo@netzero.com "the only easy day was yesterday" Posts: 2365 | From: Las Vegas, Nv. | Registered: Jun 2003
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hi ! painting on glass, with enamels, is uncertain @ best. There are times,when i have had to paint a design/art for a glass one-time job. I used white enamel receptive vinyl, lightly scuffed & sealed with a clear brushed on topcoat,as a "canvas". Simply cut the shape of the "art" or what have you out & apply to the glass. Seems to work, natyrally it's not as chilly as in the Alps like you huh ?
-------------------- mark zilliox mark z signs 8425 pushaw station rd. owings md. 20736 301-855-5407 thezs@earthlink.net http://www.markzsigns.com Posts: 348 | From: maryland | Registered: May 2003
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Glen, I ran accross Ray in Auburn, Indiana this summer. The lettering and graphics on the windows and the rest of his Pontiac Wagon were all in great condition. He did say that its about time to restore the car again, but it looked great to me.
It has a lot to do with how the windows are prepped. I have seen store windows that failed, probably due to incorrect prep procedures.
-------------------- Rove Gratz Gratz Signs 342 Walden Station Drive Macon, GA 31216 rovegratz@aol.com Home Page: http://rove-342.tripod.com Posts: 861 | From: Macon, GA 31216 | Registered: Jan 2004
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Window cleaners will leave residues of amonia,silicone, and other chemicals, more as competition gets high tek for the manufacturers of these products. If you don't want to paint or apply vinyl over these contaminants then try Rapid Prep or Rapid Tac application fluids, they are designed to clean and leave only COMPATIBLE residues.
And "cheap paper towels" from the grocery store,not the lint free/static free or the super absorbant types that are enhanced with chemicals. Think about this, the manufacturers of the cheap ones are in a low low price market, they can't be competitive if they spend money on the chemical saturation procedures, so, you get good clean paper only ! Leaving a clean substrate with no chemical residues !
Roger
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-------------------- Roger Bailey Rapid Tac Incorporated 186 Combs Dr. Merlin Oregon 97532 Posts: 3020 | From: Merlin Oregon | Registered: Dec 1998
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