-------------------- Mark Bachman Bachman Studio Great Barrington, MA USA http://www.signart.pair.com Posts: 83 | From: Great Barrington, MA, USA | Registered: May 1999
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I went and scaled the image you have and the down stroke on the "H" is only an inch and three quarters wide,....thats not alot of space for three tubes,AND bends and hardware on the base sign,....I'm not a neon expert but if there is going to be a problem that would space needed to fit all that glass and hardware,...
-------------------- Mark Bachman Bachman Studio Great Barrington, MA USA http://www.signart.pair.com Posts: 83 | From: Great Barrington, MA, USA | Registered: May 1999
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...The "neon" font is nice for spec purposes, but doesn't look like real neon will. But perhaps that doesn't matter to the flicks "art director".
...Producing this will be a handfull for any neon shop that makes it. And it will cost ya too. Is it essential for he shot? I know that in the movie biz, (if it doesn't get cut entirely) alot of things like this will appear very briefly.
...If you go ahead w. this, I'd suggest that you exend the green "shadow" of the O some.
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I am not an expert but am doing one now and just had a 4'x 8' oval with neon lettering installed yesterday. My guy will finish up today as we had a few probelms.
I think that you would be better off taking out the center line. Keep in mind that the neon has to jumped from one letter to the other. That means that you have to drill a whole in the substrate where the letter ends, put in a glass housing, run it behind and that back out the front where the letter starts again...not a good way.
I am told that the best way is to jump from letter to letter is on the front and then paint the glass in between letters, the same color as the background. I believe the less glass housing that you have to go through the better. I am told that that is where mositure sits and ends up causing problems and neon going out.
[ January 07, 2005, 01:39 PM: Message edited by: Laura Butler ]
-------------------- Laura Butler Vision Graphics & Sign 4479 Welch Rd Attica, Mi 48412 Posts: 2855 | From: Attica, Mi, USA | Registered: Nov 2000
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go get the Neon wizard software.. and use the demo,, and see what it looks like..
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Seems to me it would be good advice for you to find a neon shop and or some neon signage and study how its built,....the neon tubing is glass and there is just so much detail you can have with certain sizes of tubing and the space needed for the hardware to mount it,....remember the "kiss" principle here,...
-------------------- fly low...timi/NC is, Tim Barrow Barrow Art Signs Winston-Salem,NC Posts: 2224 | From: Winston-Salem,NC,USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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Mark, This is what I came up with after doing a Google image search on neon hotel signs. I know the colors aren't right, and I have no clue which era your movie is set in. I'm not too great on Corel yet! This is just a free font, similar to old Ho-Jo lettering. I think Timi is on the right track, Keep it Simple. Dunno if I like the red with green in your sample. Does it have to have a drop shadow?
Love....Jill
-------------------- That is like a Mr. Potato Head with all the pieces in the wrong place. -Russ McMullin Posts: 8834 | From: Butler, PA, USA | Registered: Jan 2001
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Take out the center stroke. Also the green shadow would be a PITA.I can draw you a full size pattern showing all bends and electrodes if you like. What is this going on? A typical install would be on a metal cabinet with glass or PK housings, and the electrodes at 90 deg. angles. Another way is to have the electrodes double back, but that leaves all connections showing on the face. You need tube supports no matter which way you go. Neon in windows often has a clear lexan piece behind the neon and all the glass is mounted to it. Don't forget that the transformer needs to be somewhere in a metal can. The glass looks best when as much of the hardware as possible is hidden.
Optimally, the neon is mounted on a metal cabinet, and the letters are painted behind the glass, usually white letters with a dark outline. It improves visability, as the letters reflect some of the light at night, and take on the color of the glass.You can email me if you want and I can help answer other questions you might have.
-------------------- Jeff Ogden 8727 NE 68 Terr. Gainesville FL, 32609 Posts: 2138 | From: 8827 NE 68 Terr Gainesville Fl 32609 | Registered: Aug 2002
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