I've got a goalie helmet to do, i'll design and paint, not done one before.
it's an ITECH brand. I went to their website, they don't have any info on paint, tho they sell "painted ones" looks airbrush, 2-3 styles.
Has anybody worked on these? and any advice re: prep, paints, etc.
Thank you..
John
-------------------- John Lennig / Big Top Sign Arts 5668 Ewart Street, Burnaby, British Columbia, Canada bigtopya@hotmail.com 604.451.0006 Posts: 2184 | From: Burnaby, British Columbia,Canada | Registered: Nov 2001
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Light scuffing, spray with plastic adhesion promoter, and finish with basecoat. Do any decorations and finish with clear coat.
Make sure you have a waiver signed to alleviate you of any future warranty problems. Some mask and helmet companies void their warranties when you paint them yourself.
I know someone will pipe in... "I have had no problems... yada yada yada". Just a simple CYA program.
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"I have had no problems... yada yada yada" Hi John, I use Createx Auto Air. I scuff the helmet with 600 sandpaper and paint away. An autobody shop will blast the clear on for $40 or $50 when they are doing a car. If you want specifics feel free to email me. I like the Auto Air because I can get them locally and they are water based. I cure with a heat gun between colors. That way if I don't like a layer I can remove it.
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Kelly Thorson Kel-T-Grafix 801 Main St. Holdfast, SK S0G 2H0 ktg@sasktel.net Posts: 5496 | From: Penzance, Saskatchewan | Registered: May 2002
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I would certainly get that waiver before I started! When I was looking at doing my own mask a couple of years ago, I went to the web site for the certification (HECC?) and checked into what was required to keep the certification.
What I found was that basically, the original helmut, paint and cage were certified together via the manufacturer. If anything was changed (paint and/or cage style), then the certification was void. You also had to be certified by the company that manufactured the mask to be able to paint it and maintain the certification. There was something about the paint potentially effecting the laminations in the mask.
I know in the States that referee's don't usually check for the certification. Do they in Canada? I suspect that it might be an issue only if injuries/insurance issues pop up.
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I painted a mask for one of my customer's kid several years ago when I lived in Kenmore. A slap shot put a crack in the side of and Itech (I believe) refused to honor the warranty on the mask because of the paint job.
My customer was a little PO'd about all of this and it did cause a bit of problems because they felt it was partly my fault. I have since instituted a policy of making people sign a waiver stating I couldn't be held responsible for any warranty issues.
I am guessing all it takes for certification to grease someone's palm with enough money to buy it. Funny, we can use the same materials and such as the "certified" painters and their work is covered while mine is not. Go figure...
Looking at some of the websites of the certified painters, it is amazing how inexpensive some of the work is. Voodoo Air does some excellent work and the prices really are decent and comes with the complete factory warranty.
That was what I told my neighbor across the street last year when they inquired about me painting his kid's new mask. The money I would have made wasn't worth having an ongoing feud with neighbors.
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Hmmm, this may be one to pass on, various rerasons,, I was hoping to just one shot with a brtush, but waivers, warranties, it's not going to happen. Would hiperf 3m stick? pucks will hit it, but that's battle scars!
John
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Sorry Bruce, I wasn't rediculing your statement. I guess that came across wrong. Just being the class clown. You said I know someone will so I did.
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Kelly Thorson Kel-T-Grafix 801 Main St. Holdfast, SK S0G 2H0 ktg@sasktel.net Posts: 5496 | From: Penzance, Saskatchewan | Registered: May 2002
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John, using one shot would be only way I know of to sidestep the waiver issue as one shot doesn't require any surface prep other than cleaning. Issues seem to arise when integrity of surface is disturbed, leading to delamination problems and such, can't imagine one shot by hand voiding any warranty. I'd go for it.
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Thank you all for responding. I do take the waiver/warranty issue seriously... so will move with care. I faced the same idea the other day...OT...going on a roadtrip ski trip up to Nelson. BigTop, my van, has only two reg. seatbelts. plus 2 funky ones on a funky seat. 3 people going....can't do it... IF a problem, I KNEW BETTER. Solution....rent minivan, drive fast and ski fast....
Kissy, I will get a waiver...Frank, oneshot will do it.
John
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