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Customer brings me his menu cover and wants me to create an 8' x 8' sign with that art work. To make a long story short, we are going to print a solid color background and then I want to texturize it but it still has to be somewhat translucent. What paints should I use for this....createx?
[ November 30, 2004, 03:19 PM: Message edited by: Laura Butler ]
-------------------- Laura Butler Vision Graphics & Sign 4479 Welch Rd Attica, Mi 48412 Posts: 2855 | From: Attica, Mi, USA | Registered: Nov 2000
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Laura, It sounds like you did a digital print on the 8'x8'. I am not familiar with createx and not too sure what kind of 'texture' you're looking for. I had a thought.....maybe you can do wallpapper pattern or devide the print into sections from the existing shapes on the print. Then, make some shapes matte and some a gloss finish. You can buy spray can finishes in clear and gloss. This would add a new dimension anyway.etchmark vinyl might work too
-------------------- karen LeMasters klm signs 5101 DUNBAR huntington beach, CA 92649 KLMSIGNS@EARTHLINK.NET Posts: 13 | From: H.B., CA 92649 | Registered: May 2003
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A lot of my work lately has been on railroad cars. The one I'm working on now was previously painted by a company that used a regular type spray gun, but it was fed by a pressure pot. That's a container that sits on the ground, and feeds the paint to the gun with a hose, instead of the usual 1 qt pot attached to the gun. Anyway, this allowed then to put the paint on with no reducer, which gave it a very heavy "orange peel". I'm pretty sure that was deliberate, (83 feet long, it better be). This did a great job of hiding all the wavyness of the body. If the paint had been smooth and glossy, (dark green) every body flaw would've shown up badly.
Now I'm fixing holes that were cut into this paint job. I have to match that texture, or my smooth repairs will stick out like a sore thumb. So I take a single stage industrial urethane, and spray it through my regular spray gun with no reducer. Since it doesn't have pressure forcing it up to the gun, it's much slower, goes on with a sprackly sound, like something frying, or a well adjusted mig welder.
The problem is, that while this is the biggest orange peel I've ever seen, It probably wouldn't show more that a few paces away. Also, all the clears I've ever used were much runnier than opaque colors, and the paint I'm using is very opaque.
It sounds like time for experimenting. Maybe lay the sign panel down flat, get a tinted clear, add those little round glass bead blasting media, and roll it on with a medium nap roller?
Maybe squigly lines with paintable silicone, like a cake decorator?
-------------------- James Donahue Donahue Sign Arts 1851 E. Union Valley Rd. Seymour TN. (865) 577-3365 brushman@nxs.net
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for lunch, Benjamin Franklin Posts: 2057 | From: 1033 W. Union Valley Rd. | Registered: Feb 2003
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I know exactly how I am gong to texturize...I jsut don't know what paint that I can use that will still stay translucent and will lasgt outdoors.
[ November 30, 2004, 09:51 PM: Message edited by: Laura Butler ]
-------------------- Laura Butler Vision Graphics & Sign 4479 Welch Rd Attica, Mi 48412 Posts: 2855 | From: Attica, Mi, USA | Registered: Nov 2000
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Oh sorry! I've been dabbling(sp?) in translucent paints lately. I've been to two stores, had them make me the paints. At the automotive paint store, I was talking to the guy about House of Color candy colors, and how they're used in murals, etc. So he said, "We've got a chart now that shows us how to mix up a similar product, with our brand of stuff". I was about to buy it, then I realized that it wasn't single stage, and since one of my first projects is to put graphics on my wife's van windows, I oipted to have him make me a single stage product, with acrylic enamel. That way, I won't have to clear over the van windows.
I had them make me a similar product, only with alkyd (oil based) at another store. This I intend to use on store windows, signs, etc.
If you're dealing with people that aren't familiar with candy paints, then you'll have to tell them you want a paint with no "base" in it. Most paints have some sort of base, like white or gray, to give it coverage. The people might think you're kinda looney, as this formula will have little or no coverage, but rich color, I use it over other artwork, that ends up showing through.
Also, there are sign paints formulated for translucent paints, like Spraylat brand. Maybe your easiest option.
By the way, ENQUIRING MINDS WANT TO KNOW; just how do you plan to texture this sign?
-------------------- James Donahue Donahue Sign Arts 1851 E. Union Valley Rd. Seymour TN. (865) 577-3365 brushman@nxs.net
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for lunch, Benjamin Franklin Posts: 2057 | From: 1033 W. Union Valley Rd. | Registered: Feb 2003
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One Shot Pearlescent paints are not as opaque as the rest of the lettering enamels and might work for you depending on the texture you're trying to do.
The small selection of colors may limit you a bit.
You can also try mixing tinting clear or UV clear into the paint color you'll need.
Hope this helps... Rapid
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-------------------- Ray Rheaume Rapidfire Design 543 Brushwood Road North Haverhill, NH 03774 rapidfiredesign@hotmail.com 603-787-6803
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I was hoping that I could take some of lettering enamels and add quite a bit of mineral spirits and dab on my texture. I just didn't know if the paint would continue to stick outside.
-------------------- Laura Butler Vision Graphics & Sign 4479 Welch Rd Attica, Mi 48412 Posts: 2855 | From: Attica, Mi, USA | Registered: Nov 2000
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If you're going to go that route, use varnish and One Shot hardener, rather than thinner. It'll last better than thinner only, but I don't know what it's supposed to stick to, so I don't know about adhesion.
-------------------- James Donahue Donahue Sign Arts 1851 E. Union Valley Rd. Seymour TN. (865) 577-3365 brushman@nxs.net
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for lunch, Benjamin Franklin Posts: 2057 | From: 1033 W. Union Valley Rd. | Registered: Feb 2003
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Unfortunately my customer started backwards. He did his menu cover first with another company. I was recommended by another customer so he came to me for his signage. He wanted me to create an 8'x 8' sign using the menu graphics. I have used every PhotoShop trick that I know to try to get and image 36" x 36" that was at least 200 dpi so that he could be ripped and printed at 8x8.
As far as how I am going to texturizer... I figured that I would get the effect that I want with a piece of wadded up plastic.
-------------------- Laura Butler Vision Graphics & Sign 4479 Welch Rd Attica, Mi 48412 Posts: 2855 | From: Attica, Mi, USA | Registered: Nov 2000
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