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My fax machine uses thermal resin ribbon like the Edge and costs about .25 for each page. It drives me crazy to get over half a dozen spam faxes for 4 days and 3 nights in Orlando for $99 or a dozen of the best stock picks. I printed this up on the Edge and instead of just calling to be "removed" from the list I fax this to them. But I don't "just" fax it; I start it, loop it back through and fax it til I use up all their paper. I usually wait until their business is closed to do this. This gets the message across!
-------------------- Ricky Jackson Signs Now 614 Russell Parkway Warner Robins, GA (478) 923-7722 signpimp50@hotmail.com
"If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants." Sir Issac Newton Posts: 3528 | From: Warner Robins, GA | Registered: Oct 2004
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We don't even have a fax hooked up any more. We used to send 3 or 4 pages of solid black, followed by a page saying remove us, followed by a couple more pages of solid black (wasting toner and paper).
I would guess nowadays you are faxing back to a hard drive, rather than wasting their toner.
-------------------- Mike Milos PrintSation Banner D-Signs & Graphics 489 S. 13th Ave Brighton, CO 80601 303-726-6513 Posts: 50 | From: Denver, CO | Registered: Jun 2004
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hopefully you are calling a toll free number when you fax is on an endless loop.
-------------------- Jerry VanHorn, Pres. Pure Sports Designs, LLC Pro Sign Design / United Wholesale Signs www.prosigndesign.comwww.unitedwholesalesigns.com West Liberty, OH 937-465-0595 866-942-3990 Since 1990 Posts: 925 | From: West :Liberty, OH | Registered: May 2004
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If you are lucky enough to even get a fax number from their fax. It is amazing! This practice is illegal in Michigan, but it makes little difference. Most of the spam/faxs are from Singapore or the Phillipines.
I totally agree Ricky, I hate supporting their marketing department with my office supplies.
""Good judgment comes from experience; and a lot of that comes from bad judgment" - Will Rogers Posts: 3488 | From: Beautiful Newaygo, Michigan | Registered: Mar 2003
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Fax machines around the country observed a moment of silence this week after a federal court issued an order Tuesday against the nation's most notorious junk-fax blaster, Fax.com, prohibiting the company and its surrogates from spamming fax machines across the country.
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Remove us? What, that sounds schitzophrenic? Most of the time it is a toll free number but even when it's not it only costs a few pennies to really leave an impression. I know there is the rare exception but I would 99.99% of the time never even consider buying from someone that used *my* resourses to advertise their products or services. Why don't they understand that?
-------------------- Ricky Jackson Signs Now 614 Russell Parkway Warner Robins, GA (478) 923-7722 signpimp50@hotmail.com
"If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants." Sir Issac Newton Posts: 3528 | From: Warner Robins, GA | Registered: Oct 2004
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That's a beauty, Mark & Dana - good one Ricky LOL!
(PS you could explain, Ricky, that revove is a cross between remove & revolve, as the fax goes round & round trying to get itself off its endless loop!)
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Use your fax/modem to receive faxes. It only takes minutes to set it up, costs you nothign to recieve them, and you can look at them and decide what to trash and what is actually an order before you print it out.
The best part is that you can keep a copy on your hard drive so when you lose the original you just print another one out.
We started doing this after coming in on Monday mornings and finding entire rolls of thermal fax paper on the floor with nothing business related on any of them.
-------------------- Pat Whatley Montgomery, AL (334) 262-7446 office (334) 324-8465 cell Posts: 1306 | From: Wetumpka, AL USA | Registered: Mar 2001
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I thought the law requiring the fax # on headers was a federal law, not just state. I also thought I read somewhere that they were trying to or had passed a law for junk faxers like the do-not-call list, with fines for those who continue to send junk after being told not to. Curtis, you'd be the 1 to find that if I wasn't imagining it.
I do NOT give out my fax # on forms or anything. I only give it to people who need it for a reason, customers mainly.
Using that fax/modem... would I have to be online all the time for that to work or do the faxes go into an inbox sorta like email & I then get online & get them outta that?
-------------------- Chris Welker Wildfire Signs Indiana, Pa Posts: 4254 | From: Indiana, PA | Registered: Mar 2001
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"Revove"? OMG, I can't bereive I did taht. ...but I do know that "ophthalmologist" has 2 aiches; guess HOW I know that. Yep, misspelled it *twice*! I used to be such a good speeler two. Oh well... like Dusty says "Signpainters don't make mistakes; we just make adjustments."
I have a dedicated line for faxes and a cable modem for the net so I'm not sure I could capture them on my computer unless I ran it through a computer.
-------------------- Ricky Jackson Signs Now 614 Russell Parkway Warner Robins, GA (478) 923-7722 signpimp50@hotmail.com
"If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants." Sir Issac Newton Posts: 3528 | From: Warner Robins, GA | Registered: Oct 2004
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Besides the fax loop scenario, I also handle the junk paper e-mails that I get for credit cards. You know the ones with the prepaid envelope with their return address? I put the slip with the address showing and let them pay the postage for an incomplete form. Let them fill their dumpsters with the garbage-not mine!
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AHAAHAH, thats a great way to get rid of all that junk.. Send it back,,,, perfect
Fill then envelopes with all yer trash paper.. nice
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I've been sending every credit card offer and others back in the postage paid envelopes for over a year now. Most every week I mail back a half dozen empty or filled with scrap paper to make them heavier. They have to pay more postage if they weigh more.
Rick if your computer has a 56k modem in it or you have one laying around thats all you need to have you computer send and receive your faxes. Most every computer comes with data/fax modems and software. Its very easy to set up and they work well. I have mine set up and I just delete them once I view them and see they're junk. No toner is used at all. You simply print you legit faxes from your desktop printer.
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-------------------- Bob Stephens Skywatch Signs Zephyrhills, FL
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I once heard you could take the credit card offers that have prepaid return postage on them and tape them to a brick and send it back making htem pay the postage on that.
-------------------- Pat Whatley Montgomery, AL (334) 262-7446 office (334) 324-8465 cell Posts: 1306 | From: Wetumpka, AL USA | Registered: Mar 2001
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I have done the brick thing many times. I told a friend of mine about it and he says he is going to clean out his garage. Send them old starters, alternators etc. He now says he looks forward to the mail so he can mail off more junk. lol
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