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I had someone ask me about painting on canvas today. What is your experience in doing this? It's for an awning. What is the best to material use? Ink, 1 SHOT? If using 1 SHOT, should it be primed first? Anytime I've ever lettered on any fabric, it came out looking like sheite (not the Holy Muslums), because of the paint creeping, and bleeding. Seems like the more paint applied, the more it bled.
-------------------- Luke S. Luke Scanlan Artistry Ocala, Fl. lukescanlan@cox.net Posts: 249 | From: Ocala, Florida | Registered: Nov 2001
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While at the Detroit Letterhead meet, we were able to see theater backdrops from 32 different sets. WE were invited to come up on stage to look them over. I noticed that some were canvas and some were muslin.
You might want to try some gesso to prime and then paint.
-------------------- Laura Butler Vision Graphics & Sign 4479 Welch Rd Attica, Mi 48412 Posts: 2855 | From: Attica, Mi, USA | Registered: Nov 2000
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What Si said. I have painted awnings with 1 shot sucessfully. If this an old awning that has been lettered before, you might have a problem with the old lettering showing up at certain angles since it is slightly higher than the canvas background.. Never tried priming but Laura's idea of gesso might be worth some experimenting.
Jack "Did I spel that write?"
-------------------- Jack Keith Keith Signs and Graphics 12400 Stemmons Drive Cabool, MO 65689 Posts: 131 | From: Cabool, MO | Registered: Feb 2004
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I paint on # 10 and # 12 duck canvas almost every day. We use Sherwin Williams Ultra Deep Base latex paint in our Digital printing machine. We have also used Day-glo fluorescent paint with awesome results. For pieces that are going to be outside for long time we pre treat the canvas with a coat of white latex paint to help waterproof and to shrink the canvas. We have used several of these as year round signs and they look as good as new 18 months later. "Astrup" also may have a better material for a awning as they seem to specialize in awning material and hardware.
-------------------- Mike Milos PrintSation Banner D-Signs & Graphics 489 S. 13th Ave Brighton, CO 80601 303-726-6513 Posts: 50 | From: Denver, CO | Registered: Jun 2004
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If you need to letter directly onto canvas, you can use a screen-printing textile ink and thin it to lettering consistency. No priming necessary, no prep. You may have to double-coat.
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-------------------- Gene Golden Gettysburg Signs Gettysburg PA 17325 717-334-0200 genegolden@gettysburgsigns.com
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One Shot has worked well for me on canvas without primer. Just don't thin it much at all. Might need 2 coats. Sometimes I just recoat right after painting each letter, to let it sink in a bit then still adding more paint before it dries. Coating once then recoating after it dries with a slightly thinned down coat has worked the best for me in the past. -Shon
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Sunbrela is the most common awning fabric around here. As mentioned above screen-printing ink is great (like Naz-Dar PX series) I've screened dozens & dozens of these with excellent long term results. The one time I had to letter one by hand since it was already built, I used one-shot & in hopes to save on returning for a second trip & did what Shon mentions above & recoated each letter as soon as I finished the first coat. I was white on burgandy & I was able to get an acceptable opacity in one visit with my scaffold.
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I think you're right Sheila. Gesso would probably not work out very well. If a primer is to be used, I'm thinking regular Block Out white. George your idea is great! So long as the copy is large enough. Thanks again everyone.
-------------------- Luke S. Luke Scanlan Artistry Ocala, Fl. lukescanlan@cox.net Posts: 249 | From: Ocala, Florida | Registered: Nov 2001
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I do an awful lot of awnings. I used to use tie-coat (Tubelite, sells it and I spaced how to spell it) as a sealer.
Now I do it differently.
I can't really address this because I don't know what you mean by "canvas". The possibilities are numerous and if you still have some doubt, and if it has a name, tell us.
-------------------- Myra A. Grozinger Signs Limited Winston-Salem, NC
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