Letterville Bull Board Letterville | Bull Board
 


 

Front Page
A Letterhead History
About Us
Become A Resident
Edit Your Database Info
Find A Letterhead

Letterville Merchants
Resident Downloads
Letterville BookShop
Future Live Meets
Past Meets
Step-By-Steps
Past Panel Swaps
Past SOTM
Letterhead Profiles
Business Cards
Become A Merchant

Click on the button
below to chat with other
Letterville users.

http://www.letterville.com/ubb/chaticon.gif

Steve & Barb Shortreed
144 Hill St., E.
Fergus, ON, Canada
N1M 1G9

Phone: 519-787-2892
Fax: 519-787-2673
Email: barb@letterville.com

Copyright ©1995-2008
The Letterhead Website

 

 

The Letterville BullBoard Post New Topic  New Poll  Post A Reply
my profile login | search | faq | calendar | im | forum home

  next oldest topic   next newest topic
» The Letterville BullBoard » Letterhead/Pinstriper Talk » Edge II

 - UBBFriend: Email this page to someone!    
Author Topic: Edge II
Denis E. Renaud
Visitor
Member # 4610

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Denis E. Renaud   Author's Homepage   Email Denis E. Renaud   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
looking into buying an EDGE II with cutter. Wondering people input ( & -) on the purchase of this machine and the omega software? This is a big investment to had to my two year old business. I've managed without it for two years but think I could use this type of equipment if I had it.
Thanks for your comments
Denis

--------------------
Denis Renaud
EXIT66 Signs & Graphics
Caselman, ON Can.
denis@exit66.ca

Posts: 84 | From: Casselman, On. Canada | Registered: Apr 2004  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Dave Grundy
Resident


Member # 103

Icon 15 posted      Profile for Dave Grundy   Author's Homepage   Email Dave Grundy   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Denis...I have only been in the business for 12 years now. I don't have a digital printer. But I do have a fellow Letterville member, with an Edge, to whom I sub contract any work like that.

At this point I can't justify the expense of buying one because my total digital print work only amounts to a small percentage of my annual sales.

If and when the demand gets to the point of justifying it I might buy an Edge or other digital printer. Until then, I'll be happy to provide someone else with a small amount of additional work and just mark up the cost to the end customer.

Bottom line..if you have the demand, buy one..if you just WANT one DON'T. They are an expensive decorative item!!!!!!! [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

--------------------
Dave Grundy
retired in Chelem,Yucatan,Mexico/Hensall,Ontario,Canada
1-519-262-3651 Canada
011-52-1-999-102-2923 Mexico cell
1-226-785-8957 Canada/Mexico home

dave.grundy@hotmail.com

Posts: 8875 | From: Chelem, Yucatan, Mexico/Hensall, Ontario, Canada | Registered: Nov 1998  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Jon Aston
Visitor
Member # 1725

Icon 16 posted      Profile for Jon Aston   Email Jon Aston   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Denis:

Short answer...Go for it!!

Long answer...

I would suggest introducing yourself over at 4EDGEtalk.com and asking your question(s) there, too.

If - today - you find yourself doing multiple (ie. more than one) colours in tight registration or alot of smaller text, it is far more productive and profitable to print than it is to cut in vinyl, weed, premask, register and apply. In other words, there is no question that any signshop that can afford an EDGE can make money with one on that basis alone.

The EDGE also presents you with a number of opportunities to sell more products (many of them unique) to your existing customers. If you start with a plan - rather than drifting from job to job or creative impulse to creative impulse, you will make ALOT more money. Plan to understand your customers' business objectives and provide creative solutions that will help them achieve their objectives. Sell to the many strengths of the machine (and what you can do with it).

Anyone who tells you that the EDGE is too small or prints too expensively or is "old technology" simply doesn't know what they are talking about - or wants to sell you an inkjet. EDGE owners will confirm this point of view. Most would give you an appendage before they would give you their EDGE.

Strongly held view...hope it hasn't ofended. Certainly not my intent. Everyone is entitled to their opinion - including me!

Good luck with your decision!

--------------------
Jon Aston
MARKETING PARTNERS
"Strategy, Marketing and Business Development"
Tel 705-719-9209

Posts: 1724 | From: Barrie, ON, CANADA | Registered: Sep 2000  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Bob Rochon
Resident


Member # 30

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Bob Rochon   Author's Homepage   Email Bob Rochon   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Yeah!
What Jon said lol

I loveeee my edge~

--------------------
Bob Rochon
Creative Signworks
Millbury, MA
508-865-7330

"Life is Like an Echo, what you put out, comes back to you."

Posts: 5149 | From: Millbury, Mass. U.S. | Registered: Nov 1998  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Stevo Chartrand
Visitor
Member # 2094

Icon 14 posted      Profile for Stevo Chartrand   Author's Homepage   Email Stevo Chartrand   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Me tooooooo. I love running that moosheen. It can easily be the biggest money maker in yer shop. You can knock out a 1000 decals and cut them in no time and use really cool lettering effects. If ya think ya got the market for it then give 'er!

Good luck


Stevo

--------------------
Stevo Design
Illustration Logos Sign Design Clip Art
www.stevo-design.com

Posts: 1680 | From: Edmonton Ab Canada EH! | Registered: May 2001  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Checkers
Resident


Member # 63

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Checkers   Author's Homepage   Email Checkers   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Everyone's right in their comments. So, if you have an extra $500-$600 US per month laying around. Go for it.
The last shop I worked at that owned an Edge II did what Appy suggests. Once we had generated enough income to support the machine through outsourcing, we made the purchase.
It only took us a few days to get up and running at full speed because we were already a Gerber shop. In a short period of time, we found many different applications that we could use the machine for and within a few months, we could have paid the machine off with the extra revenue generated.
I think this was the exception rather than the rule. We planned on this for a while and our timing was perfect or just dumb luck.

Havin' fun,

Checkers

--------------------
a.k.a. Brian Born
www.CheckersCustom.com
Harrisburg, Pa
Work Smart, Play Hard

Posts: 3775 | From: Harrisburg, Pa. U.S.A. | Registered: Nov 1998  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Wayne Berry
Visitor
Member # 1327

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Wayne Berry   Email Wayne Berry   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I'd have to go along with Dave on this one. I've been at this stuff for over 18 years now and I've learned to have enough work to pay for any equipment before I buy.

I farmed out Edge work for 2 to 3 years before I felt I could legitimize the investment. I made very good on the work I farmed out and had a very good relationship with the shop that did the work for me. They even help me with workflow issues and little tweeks after I bought my own.

I've always believed in paying for what you have when you get it rule. That is not the way a lot of people do business. I understand that. But I also know that there are a lot of Edge1 & Edge2's on the used market. Often because people are trying to get out from under them & other debt.

Wayne

--------------------
Berry Signs & Stripes
Hattiesburg, MS
Signs, lines, lettering & other neat stuff.

Posts: 82 | From: Hattiesburg, MS | Registered: Jan 2000  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Doug Allan
Resident


Member # 2247

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Doug Allan   Author's Homepage   Email Doug Allan   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I subbed out edge work for 3 years also. I only subbed out work that could be done no other way, but still did my multi-color lay-ups myself & weeded my insanely small & abundant copy myself.

1st year subbed $1000, second year subbed $1500, third year subbed $2500 & decided to buy the machine. Then I started really pushing myself to sell more cooler designs & to learn to create more cooler (as in "cooler.. &more of them... not "more cool".. well that too [Smile] )

The first year I had the machine someone wanted something impossible, & I probably would have just told them so in earlier days... but instead I said "maybe this will work... showed them what I could do & presto! landed a $22,000.00 contract at a remote 5-star hotel.

I have literally built my business around that machine... enclosing & air-conditioning my office (after 3 hot, dusty years) to create a dust-free environment, selling off screen-printing equipment, & knocking out walls to reclaim blue-collar shop space to expand my white collar (plus random 1-shot drops)office environment to make room for an assistent to help keep up with the demand for EDGE printed signs & decals.

--------------------
Doug Allan
http://www.islandsign.com

"you get what you settle for"

Posts: 8981 | From: Kahului, HI, USA | Registered: Sep 2001  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Doug Allan
Resident


Member # 2247

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Doug Allan   Author's Homepage   Email Doug Allan   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
forgot to say in retrospect, I maybe should have bought the machine at least 1 or 2 years earlier... but your current cash flow is a factor in that decision. Also your ambition & your market.

Around here, with enough ambition to show up, answer the phone, & strive to provide good customer service (& a little creative talent [Smile] ) anyone could do well & land enough work to pay the bills!

--------------------
Doug Allan
http://www.islandsign.com

"you get what you settle for"

Posts: 8981 | From: Kahului, HI, USA | Registered: Sep 2001  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Dan Streicher
Visitor
Member # 4515

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Dan Streicher         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
After selling them in my previous life, we don't have one now and it wouldn't be a good investment for us as that is not the type of work we do, it is a EXCELLENT machine for the type of work that it does....there really is no competition, although there are other machines that do similar types of printing I'm not naming names.....they just don't compete or compare.

--------------------
Dan Streicher
Slidell, LA

Posts: 445 | From: Slidell, LA | Registered: Feb 2004  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Rick Beisiegel
Resident


Member # 3723

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Rick Beisiegel   Author's Homepage   Email Rick Beisiegel       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
GO FOR IT
DO IT
YOU WON'T REGRET IT
I LOVE MY EDGE II

--------------------
Rick Beisiegel
Vital Signs & Graphics
Since 1982
(231) 452-6225 / (231) 652-3300
www.vitalsignsandgraphics.com
www.facebook.com/VitalSignsNewaygo

""Good judgment comes from experience; and a lot of that comes from bad judgment" - Will Rogers

Posts: 3484 | From: Beautiful Newaygo, Michigan | Registered: Mar 2003  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Bob Stephens
Visitor
Member # 858

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Bob Stephens   Author's Homepage   Email Bob Stephens   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
My nearby competitor who have been true blue Gerber shop, own an edge. They have since jumped ship to the Roland print/cut machine, same as I have. They have flat out stated that the new machine is hands down better than the edge. I also run the new Roland and have to agree. You will seldom find an edge user who will admit that it’s not the great machine they purport it to be. Thirty thousand for a complete setup to print 11-7/8” strips is just ridiculous.


Definitely do your researching before you lay down serious money on any piece of new equipment and keep a very open mind. The edge is about seven years old? Technology has come a long way since then.

As for other peoples advice, sub out as much as possible until you are certain you have enough work to invest in new equipment to do it in house.

--------------------
Bob Stephens
Skywatch Signs
Zephyrhills, FL

www.skywatchsigns.com
www.skywatchgallery.com

Posts: 2481 | From: Zephyrhills, Florida | Registered: Jun 1999  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Rick Beisiegel
Resident


Member # 3723

Icon 6 posted      Profile for Rick Beisiegel   Author's Homepage   Email Rick Beisiegel       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I agree with Bob, Be sure to count the cost, and sub it out to see if the market is there. I did do that for a while. I STILL stand by Gerber tho. [Wink]

[ July 25, 2004, 09:24 PM: Message edited by: Rick Beisiegel ]

--------------------
Rick Beisiegel
Vital Signs & Graphics
Since 1982
(231) 452-6225 / (231) 652-3300
www.vitalsignsandgraphics.com
www.facebook.com/VitalSignsNewaygo

""Good judgment comes from experience; and a lot of that comes from bad judgment" - Will Rogers

Posts: 3484 | From: Beautiful Newaygo, Michigan | Registered: Mar 2003  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Bob Rochon
Resident


Member # 30

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Bob Rochon   Author's Homepage   Email Bob Rochon   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Bob,

10 years old technology, tested and proven, unlike your Roland counterpart. It may not be the newest bell and wistle but it can still spin cirlces around inkjet depending on your market and intended use.

why would 12" height be a problem? never has for me, the one time I needed to do a job without a seam I subbed it out to the maxx. spot colors are solid dry instanly and still outlast any ink unlaminated.

Oh and what about this print and cut machine, it seems that Roland totes a 2 machines in one, funny thing is to get more than 2 years outdoor you need to laminate them, gee that would require another machine. Kinda blows that pitch out the window.

so let's recap you print on one machine, take it out put it in a laminator, take it out of the laminator, put it back in the original machine that you printed with to cut it. wow thats a real time saver.~

[ July 25, 2004, 10:41 PM: Message edited by: Bob Rochon ]

--------------------
Bob Rochon
Creative Signworks
Millbury, MA
508-865-7330

"Life is Like an Echo, what you put out, comes back to you."

Posts: 5149 | From: Millbury, Mass. U.S. | Registered: Nov 1998  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Rick Beisiegel
Resident


Member # 3723

Icon 6 posted      Profile for Rick Beisiegel   Author's Homepage   Email Rick Beisiegel       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Take a bow, Bob!!

[Applause] [Applause] [Applause] [Applause] [Applause]

--------------------
Rick Beisiegel
Vital Signs & Graphics
Since 1982
(231) 452-6225 / (231) 652-3300
www.vitalsignsandgraphics.com
www.facebook.com/VitalSignsNewaygo

""Good judgment comes from experience; and a lot of that comes from bad judgment" - Will Rogers

Posts: 3484 | From: Beautiful Newaygo, Michigan | Registered: Mar 2003  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
greg baker
Visitor
Member # 3337

Icon 1 posted      Profile for greg baker   Email greg baker   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
But can you do a vehicle wrap then a 1200 wide poster followed by 7m x 1200mm banner?
As you can see, its "horses for courses".
Do your homework mate and make sure you buy the right machine because they all cost a lot of money in the beginning but if you choose the right equipment for yourself then it will pay itself off in no time.
Research, Research,Research, then sub the work out until you are convinced.

--------------------
Greg Baker
Sign City
14 Milton Circuit
Port Macquarie
NSW 2444
signcity1@bigpond.com

Posts: 48 | From: australia | Registered: Oct 2002  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Kissymatina
Resident


Member # 2028

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Kissymatina   Author's Homepage   Email Kissymatina   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Forget the constant argument over Roland vs. Gerber vs. whoever. It's like beating a dead horse and annoying.

Questions: What do you want to do with it? What is your intended market? What do you need in a machine to fulfill the demands of that market?

Now, what machine meets those specs?

If you're planning on doing billboards, 11" panels would probably be annoying and 600 dpi overpriced overkill. Know what I mean Vern?

--------------------
Chris Welker
Wildfire Signs
Indiana, Pa

Posts: 4254 | From: Indiana, PA | Registered: Mar 2001  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Bob Rochon
Resident


Member # 30

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Bob Rochon   Author's Homepage   Email Bob Rochon   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Neverrrrr Kissy Neverrrrr forget~

Did we forget when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Noooooooooooooooo.

[Razz] [Razz] [Wink]

I was busting Bob's Post because you are right he just forgot to mention what market he uses his printer for. And in what he told me it is not the same as most sign shops.

so thereeee [Razz]

--------------------
Bob Rochon
Creative Signworks
Millbury, MA
508-865-7330

"Life is Like an Echo, what you put out, comes back to you."

Posts: 5149 | From: Millbury, Mass. U.S. | Registered: Nov 1998  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Amy Brown
Visitor
Member # 1963

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Amy Brown   Author's Homepage   Email Amy Brown   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
[Applause] [Applause] [Applause] Thank you Kissy! I was just thinking, here we go again! Same ole debate.

--------------------
Amy Brown
Life Skills 101
Private Address

Posts: 3502 | From: Lake Helen, FL, USA | Registered: Feb 2001  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Myra Grozinger
Visitor
Member # 327

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Myra Grozinger   Email Myra Grozinger   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Everything that Jon Aston said.
Until I recently upgraded ( to an Edge LE and a Gerber GS 15 plotter) I ran an Edge Trunnion and cut with a 4B. I bought the Trunnion used from Hyatt's, and it paid for itself and made me way more versatile and more profitable right away.


(Bob R: did the Germans bomb Pearl Harbor before or after they bombed Hiroshima?)

--------------------
Myra A. Grozinger
Signs Limited
Winston-Salem, NC

signslimited@triad.rr.com

Posts: 1244 | From: Winston-Salem, NC USA | Registered: Nov 1998  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
David Wright
Visitor
Member # 111

Icon 1 posted      Profile for David Wright   Author's Homepage   Email David Wright   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Ouch Myra.
I can't remember.

--------------------
Wright Signs
Wyandotte, Michigan

Posts: 2785 | From: Wyandotte, MI USA | Registered: Jan 1999  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Bob Rochon
Resident


Member # 30

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Bob Rochon   Author's Homepage   Email Bob Rochon   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Myra you would have to watch a John Belushi Movie titled 1941 to get that one hahaha.

( it was a joke just in case ) [Wink]

--------------------
Bob Rochon
Creative Signworks
Millbury, MA
508-865-7330

"Life is Like an Echo, what you put out, comes back to you."

Posts: 5149 | From: Millbury, Mass. U.S. | Registered: Nov 1998  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Denis E. Renaud
Visitor
Member # 4610

Icon 14 posted      Profile for Denis E. Renaud   Author's Homepage   Email Denis E. Renaud   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Thanks all for your opinion on purchasing the edge.
I have worked with an EDGE "classic" (first model ever made)on my previous employment before starting my own biz. I 'm filling out the leasing papers tonight and hopefully by next week have the delivery of my new money making machine (EdgeII w/Gs15 plotter, omega 2.0, and The salesman giving me $500 free materials).The price and timing is good for me right now.! Once I get rolling with this machine I'll post some of the work.

Thanks Again

--------------------
Denis Renaud
EXIT66 Signs & Graphics
Caselman, ON Can.
denis@exit66.ca

Posts: 84 | From: Casselman, On. Canada | Registered: Apr 2004  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Bob Rochon
Resident


Member # 30

Icon 16 posted      Profile for Bob Rochon   Author's Homepage   Email Bob Rochon   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Enjoy!

--------------------
Bob Rochon
Creative Signworks
Millbury, MA
508-865-7330

"Life is Like an Echo, what you put out, comes back to you."

Posts: 5149 | From: Millbury, Mass. U.S. | Registered: Nov 1998  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Jon Aston
Visitor
Member # 1725

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Jon Aston   Email Jon Aston   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
What Bob says!

Did my old pals at ND GRAPHICS tell you about The Idea Book ? If they didn't, ask. There are some other handy marketing tools available too. ND's best EDGE-related resource: Ted Nesbitt

--------------------
Jon Aston
MARKETING PARTNERS
"Strategy, Marketing and Business Development"
Tel 705-719-9209

Posts: 1724 | From: Barrie, ON, CANADA | Registered: Sep 2000  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Rick Beisiegel
Resident


Member # 3723

Icon 6 posted      Profile for Rick Beisiegel   Author's Homepage   Email Rick Beisiegel       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Gerber 1

Roland 0

[Applause] [Applause] [Applause] [Applause]

I was as nervous as you are. Today, with my paid for equipment, I am enjoying the creativity that is truly Gerber! Enjoy yourself, and love what you do. And always remember, you are paying less than I did. [Wink]

Regards,

[ July 27, 2004, 09:24 PM: Message edited by: Rick Beisiegel ]

--------------------
Rick Beisiegel
Vital Signs & Graphics
Since 1982
(231) 452-6225 / (231) 652-3300
www.vitalsignsandgraphics.com
www.facebook.com/VitalSignsNewaygo

""Good judgment comes from experience; and a lot of that comes from bad judgment" - Will Rogers

Posts: 3484 | From: Beautiful Newaygo, Michigan | Registered: Mar 2003  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
greg baker
Visitor
Member # 3337

Icon 1 posted      Profile for greg baker   Email greg baker   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Good luck Dennis Ihope it all works out for you

--------------------
Greg Baker
Sign City
14 Milton Circuit
Port Macquarie
NSW 2444
signcity1@bigpond.com

Posts: 48 | From: australia | Registered: Oct 2002  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Susan Banasky
Resident


Member # 1164

Icon 16 posted      Profile for Susan Banasky   Email Susan Banasky   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Denis,
I sweated BIG bullets wondering about my decision to purchase my Edge. I have it about three months...and it is already making me money, working as a great sign tool, saving me time on complex logos that I would normally have to cut, weed & mask, I have said 'Yes' to many more jobs that I usually have to turn away or sub out. My first payment ($500.Ish) was paid yesterday...... and I know this is the right decision.
I did choose the Edge over the Edge II, as their was about ten grand difference in price for a little faster machine and few other benefits. I also did extensive research on other thermals and inkjets....many machines print direct onto banner material, (then you have to sew and grommet that material...more time, labour and money). I can lay a printed decal onto my 'Banana Banner' and you cannot tell that the decal is not printed onto it. Many inks need a couple of hours to dry,(I don't have time to wait, nor a place to put it...that to me is unacceptable). Many needed lamination (more cost and time)...My largest job was an enclosed trailer....logos were 4' high x 6 feet wide....the Edge was perfect. The seams are next to invisible and the customer was thrilled. The Edge Panels actually worked in my favor as the decal was over rivets and a larger decal would have been difficult for me to handle ..outside,up a ladder, by myself, with a slight wind and the air full of pollen.
Most other jobs can be rotated or positioned for the least amount of seams/overlaps and also with some larger machines the waste factor was enormous. With the 15" materials required for the Edge I can double duty them with a Roland cutter I already own. No Waste. When I subbed out I had to wait a week to get the product...now I can have it ready in hours...on my terms. I can print onto metallic vinyls, holographic vinyls, any color of vinyl for some neat effects....can the other printers do that?
....GO FOR IT! You will never look back.
Sue

--------------------
Susan Banasky
Source Signs
Nanaimo, British Columbia
sourcesigns@shaw.ca

When in need....go directly to the "Source"!

Proud Supporter of this "Knowledge Network"!

Posts: 1323 | From: Nanaimo, B.C. Canada | Registered: Oct 1999  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
greg baker
Visitor
Member # 3337

Icon 1 posted      Profile for greg baker   Email greg baker   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Denis I tjink the question you should be asking is" which machine should I buy first".Theres no stopping you now, once you have paid this off get yourself a inkjet, that will make you an allround sign shop, which is what we will do in the near future.
I dont know why we are comparing these machines to each other, they are 2 different types printers.
Its like comparing soccer to grid iron, they are both a game of football, but are played completly differently and have different outcomes.

--------------------
Greg Baker
Sign City
14 Milton Circuit
Port Macquarie
NSW 2444
signcity1@bigpond.com

Posts: 48 | From: australia | Registered: Oct 2002  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Neil D. Butler
Resident


Member # 661

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Neil D. Butler   Email Neil D. Butler   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Well when I started this new venture 51/2 years ago, I bought the "Best".. that is an Edge, Envision 375 plotter, and GA. And to go with that I put up about $50.000 more in borrowed money from the banks to buy all the other equipment... I have 2 more payments, and I have never missed not one payment, or was late for that matter, I would'nt have been able to do that with a Roland Machine. Today we have 6 employees and we Have just been voted by a local magazine as the "Best in Newfoundland" in the Sign Shop Category. 2 years in a row.

Thanks Gerber!

I'm looking at Inkjet now, that will make us a more rounded out shop..

GOOD LUCK!

--------------------
"Keep Positive"

SIGNS1st.
Neil Butler
Paradise, NF

Posts: 6277 | From: St. John's NF Canada | Registered: Mar 1999  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Jon Aston
Visitor
Member # 1725

Icon 14 posted      Profile for Jon Aston   Email Jon Aston   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Hey - Congrats Neil!! [Applause]

I hope you are planning to use that award to your greatest advantage!

--------------------
Jon Aston
MARKETING PARTNERS
"Strategy, Marketing and Business Development"
Tel 705-719-9209

Posts: 1724 | From: Barrie, ON, CANADA | Registered: Sep 2000  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Rick Beisiegel
Resident


Member # 3723

Icon 6 posted      Profile for Rick Beisiegel   Author's Homepage   Email Rick Beisiegel       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Good for you Neil!!! [Applause] [Applause] [Applause] [Applause] [Applause]

Just another satisfied, successful user of great technology!

--------------------
Rick Beisiegel
Vital Signs & Graphics
Since 1982
(231) 452-6225 / (231) 652-3300
www.vitalsignsandgraphics.com
www.facebook.com/VitalSignsNewaygo

""Good judgment comes from experience; and a lot of that comes from bad judgment" - Will Rogers

Posts: 3484 | From: Beautiful Newaygo, Michigan | Registered: Mar 2003  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
   

Quick Reply
Message:

HTML is not enabled.
UBB Code™ is enabled.

Instant Graemlins
   


Post New Topic  New Poll  Post A Reply Close Topic   Feature Topic   Move Topic   Delete Topic next oldest topic   next newest topic
 - Printer-friendly view of this topic
Hop To:


Contact Us | Letterville. A Community Of Letterheads & Pinheads!

Powered by Infopop Corporation
UBB.classic™ 6.7.2

Search For Sign Supplies
Category:
 

                  

Letterhead Suppliers Around the World