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Hey everyone. My aunt has asked me to paint a sign for her on an old vinyl banner she has. She's on a budget, I'm too nice a guy and I've already told her i'd do it. So I have no choice I have to go ahead with it. What is my best bet a far as paint and prep. I can either hand paint or airbrush it. I have One shot and Creatix but I'll grab anything else that is better suited for the job. Any help would be welcome. Thanks in advance.
-------------------- Shane Mussche Sin Custom Graphics Hamilton Ontario Posts: 52 | From: Hamilton, Ontario | Registered: Jun 2002
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In my experience, on a vinyl banner, it has to be vinyl inks. No special prep needed, though I do wipe it down with either lacquer thinner or alcohol first.
If this is a one time thing, call a local screen printer, present your situation, and get small amounts of the inks in the colors you need. I suggest you take your own small jars, insist on that you will pay for it ahead of time; it is a legitimate business interaction after all. Make it as easy on the person doing you this favor as you possibly can. Do not put that person in the position of quoting you. Vinyl inks are expensive. Depending on color they are 60 - 80 $ a gallon, or more when you consider freight and the hazard shipping charges.
So a $ 20 bill forced on the person who gives you a few baby food jars of ink is not an overpayment.
I say all this because I have been the local screenprinter mentioned above for about 26 years by now.......
-------------------- Myra A. Grozinger Signs Limited Winston-Salem, NC
signslimited@triad.rr.com Posts: 1244 | From: Winston-Salem, NC USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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quote: Hey everyone. My aunt has asked me to paint a sign for her on an old vinyl banner she has.
Your aunt may have plans to use it as something more permanant since it's to be "a sign".
Banners are temporary and no matter which paint you use, it won't change that aspect. If she's planning on hanging up for the long term, take a minute to let her know that a better substrate would be worth it in the long run and far outlast it.
If it's a short term deal or just a one shot event, One Shot should do the trick.
Hope this helps... Rapid
-------------------- Ray Rheaume Rapidfire Design 543 Brushwood Road North Haverhill, NH 03774 rapidfiredesign@hotmail.com 603-787-6803
I like my paint shaken, not stirred. Posts: 5648 | From: North Haverhill, New Hampshire | Registered: Apr 2003
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I don't know here if it was my aunt I would most likely save myself the trouble of working on a less than desired substrate and just tell her I will gladly give you a new banner and save myself the headache of working on a substrate that just sounds as if it is going to give you problems, in my business the materials are such a small cost of the entire job it is the labor that is the real expense, do yourself a favor work on a new surface, and that way all the people who see it don't see a project that you did that looks less than desirable because you started on a bad surface....just my .02
-------------------- Dan Streicher Slidell, LA Posts: 445 | From: Slidell, LA | Registered: Feb 2004
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I'm with Striker. If it is one of those shiney "Coca-Cola" style freebie banners, PAINT WILL NEVER STICK. Get a cheap Polly-Banner from Davey. They are about $10 for a 2'x8' and accept 1-Shot beautifully. If you're gonna do something, do it right. That's what Dad always said, and Auntie should agree. Love...Jill
-------------------- That is like a Mr. Potato Head with all the pieces in the wrong place. -Russ McMullin Posts: 8834 | From: Butler, PA, USA | Registered: Jan 2001
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I would at the very least use a piece of enamel receptive vinyl if I was going to paint something on Vinyl. My machine uses nothing but Latex paint to print with, and the only vinyl I have had any luck with is ER vinyl.It is only 4.65 per yard for 36" wide by 13oz. from Royal Banner. If you can't find it from them, I have lots of small rems. Mike
-------------------- Mike Milos PrintSation Banner D-Signs & Graphics 489 S. 13th Ave Brighton, CO 80601 303-726-6513 Posts: 50 | From: Denver, CO | Registered: Jun 2004
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Nine times outa ten it is cheaper and quicker to start with a fresh substrate.
Ok, There are exceptions to the rule ... last week we did two 24ftx6ft old banners. But I specified BLACK background. Easy to spray coat the old lettering out. Even then the time taken to letter them was hardly worth the effort. Wrinkles and creases really slow yer down. Time is money!
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Shane I use One shot all the time with good results.Brush or air will work as long as the banner is paint receptive.I do them for schools and some are 10 years old when put away properly,meaning roll lettering to outside.Hope I helped.
-------------------- Randall Campbell Randy's Graphics, 420 Fairfield N. Hamilton Ontario Canada Posts: 2857 | From: Hamilton Ontario Canada | Registered: Jan 2002
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Thanks for all your replys, Everyone. Randy, one of these days I'm gonna pop in and meet you guys. I'm gonna try One Shot on it. This is a short term item so I'll take the chance. Or...should I say my aunt wants to take the chance. Thanks again everyone.
-------------------- Shane Mussche Sin Custom Graphics Hamilton Ontario Posts: 52 | From: Hamilton, Ontario | Registered: Jun 2002
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