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I've come across something I havent seen. A logo was sent to me as a PDF, I import it into corel and it's a bitmap (of course) but the bitmap has nodes around it ... there's a vector there somewhere but I can't get it off of the bitmap image. Any idea how?
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Sorry I can't help..but if someone can I'll be interested to see how.
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Try using illustrator to open the pdf..?Usually u can play with the graphic in the PDF with illustrator
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I as well have never ran into this problem, but in thinking a little bit backwards....I'm wondering if only part of the image was exported or created or changed to a bitmap and then maybe only part of it was created, added, skipped, that is a vector drawing??? crazy...keep us posted, but I guess my first inclination would be to open it in illustrator and then either tweak with it in there or re export it and import it into corel and see if you have the same result...I'm going to stop thinking about this as it is Friday night and I am only confusing myself in my mind....again
-------------------- Dan Streicher Slidell, LA Posts: 445 | From: Slidell, LA | Registered: Feb 2004
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it reminds me of the results you get in illustrator when you use the "export transparent wizard" option on a rastor image in photoshop. It is found under the Help menu. It's like an "action" that creates a mask & saves it with the image as an eps file & allows an odd shaped rastor image to be pasted into a vector drawing & the bottom layers can be seen around the masked image without the usual white box.
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another idea is if you know someone with the full version of acrobat instead of just the reader... sometimes the "security" setting on someones PDF file specify disallowing editing. This may be overruled from the full version, but from reader it can only be viewed or printed. (flash... light just went off in my head... this would be a good method of providing graphics files to those clients who think you owe them their files on disc, but who we don't really think we owe that to.)
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Hi Mark I do not know why the designer did what he did in this graphic but Corel has been able to do what you have shown since version 7.
Basically it goes like this open a new page and import a bit mapped picture. Then with the shape edit tool click on the bit mapped picture you will now see that in each corner of the picture there is a "node". If you want you can move these nodes and if you want you can add more nodes anyplace along the outside edge of this bit mapped graphic. This is a quick and easy way in Corel to crop a bit mapped graphic without going into PhotoPaint.
This is what I think the designer did and he then just converted it to a pdf. Was their another part of the design that needed a transparent background on the bit mapped graphic?
-------------------- Steve Eisenreich Dezine Signs PO BOX 6052 Stn Forces Cold Lake, Alberta T9M 2C5 Posts: 774 | From: Cold Lake | Registered: Mar 2000
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My guess is that they were originally set up as print/cut files and somwhow merged when PDF'd. I have seen the logo on trailers, printed and cut to shape. I know power cliping in Corel but as it is not a corel file it wont let me back track and get the vector off the bitmap. This is not a "real" job so I'm not chasing down the designer or putting any real time into it, it's one of the sponsors for this years bike run ( www.creeksiderun.com )(the Rochester Thunder logo on home page)
I am still just curious about the noded bitmap though
-------------------- Compulsive, Neurotic, Anti-social and Paranoid ... but basically Happy Posts: 2677 | From: Rochester, NY, USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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First off, don't assume that all images in a pdf are rasters. If it was saved as a vector, it will open as a vector. This looks like you might have some kind of blend or gradient embedded within a vector. That might explain it, but that's just a guess. Or, could this be the product of some newer program with the ability to edit bitmaps like they were vectors?
(ok - I typed that above late last night & didn't post 'cause of too tired. But left it as was without editing. It still might be helpful - or not.)
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I can't help, but thought you might enjoy this story...
I once had a farmer watching me manipulate some art and as I turned it from a "selected" image to workable "nodes" he was standing directly behind me and he says "Geezus ...look at all them chiggers"
Nodes have been "Chiggers" in our place ever since!
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What version of Corel are you using? We used 8 for a while and were not able to 'break' pdf files apart. Version 12 allows us to ungroup and separate.
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BWAHAHAHA!!! Here I am, computer novice, reading all this, trying to learn something, and I read the "chiggers" bit. Thanks all.
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I still think it was the way they cropped the bitmap you could probably move the nodes back out and remove all but the four corners and you may even find other parts of the bitmapped image.
-------------------- Steve Eisenreich Dezine Signs PO BOX 6052 Stn Forces Cold Lake, Alberta T9M 2C5 Posts: 774 | From: Cold Lake | Registered: Mar 2000
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As he was driving to work on day, a friend who moved here from New York heard a local deejay talking about chigger ranching. Intrigued and not knowing what a chigger was, he mentioned this new business opportunity to his workmates. He had to quit his job before he lived that one down.
Back to the chiggers around the bitmap. I haven’t seen that but I have had success opening .eps and .pdf files in Illustrator as vector that Corel only saw as bitmapped.
-------------------- David Harding A Sign of Excellence Carrollton, TX Posts: 5084 | From: Carrollton, TX, USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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For some time now PDF images can be brought into vector programs and used as they are. What a relief. There was a time when PDF's were useless for anything except viewing. We'd scan then and trace to get a vector image.
My guess is the problem youre having isn,t with the PDF, it's a familiar problem with Corel, which sometimes adds hundred's of nodes. Programs like Sign Lab, Flexi, or Gerber don'seem to have this problem. Another nasty little trick Corel will sometimes do is double up on nodes, putting one behind the other, which may or may not be welded leaving an open path. This will dirive you crazzzzy.
You probably have Illustrator, try it to see.
j
-------------------- Joe Crumley Norman Sign Company 2200 Research Park Blvd. Norman, OK 73069 Posts: 1428 | From: 2200 Research Park Blvd. | Registered: Sep 2001
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Your right, it is strange, looks like some type of clip path, every bitmap has them but usually only in corners, for some reason this image also rotates and mirrors backwords when I bring it into photopaint to edit...
The nodes are easy to get rid off, select the bitmap and convert it to a bitmap, leave the background transparent... sounds strange but it works, you can keep the same mode and resolution. I've used this trick whenever I have problems with any bitmap. I also use it to merge lenses or shadows into a bitmapped background to avoid print issues.
Edit: I guess the question becomes whether it is necessary to remove this 'clip path'. If it ain't broke ...
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Some PICT files are vector files. But I don't know if a PICT could be embedded in a PDF file, nor if PICT with vectors are usable on a PC. But I can open it with AppleWorks and with Illustrator on Mac.
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