posted May 15, 2004 12:12 PM
I know that there is an additive that you can put in enamel to take the gloss, I just can't seem to track it down. Anyone have a source?
posted May 15, 2004 12:21 PM
Any auto paint store will have "flatting agent" that you can add to reduce the gloss.
Just for your info, I was once told by a paint tech who came to inspect a job that I had done and that was chipping easily (frame on a restoration job) that adding flatting agent to any paint will reduce it's resiliance and adhesion properties. The more flatting agent the weaker the paint becomes.
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I add a little and then put a dab on something to see if its as flat as I want. If not just keep adding a little and dabbing until its as flat as you want.
I would guess if I had a yogurt cup 1/2 full, I would start with about 1/4 to 1/2 tsp. of powder.
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posted May 15, 2004 12:44 PM
I got flattening powder from canadian Signcrafter Supplies (a merchant here). It worked great. One tip is to make sure you strain the paint after you've added the powder, or you may get tiny lumps that burst open and create little white spots.
Suelynn
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posted May 15, 2004 12:50 PM
I've never ran into this situation, but one thing I might try is putting a coat of Flat Clear Ti-Coat on top of the 1Shot. I use it to knock down the gloss on banners if needed.
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posted May 15, 2004 03:40 PM
OneShot now has the Chromatic flattening "paste" which is really a resin, not the typical powders or soloids. The advantage is that it will flatten while adding resin which helps to maintain the integrity of the paint film. A 50-50 mix gives you a dead flat finish. Flat Ti-Cote over the top can be preferrable as it adds a coat rather than degrading a single one and as a water-borne it will not lift the OneShot.
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posted May 15, 2004 05:23 PM
Don't know what you are Doing, and Kent has the right idea, but I have used pumice to flatten sign panels after the fact, especially if you are going to leaf them. Bill
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posted May 15, 2004 06:02 PM
Taz, You might want to try this on a test panel, but we use 00 steel wool to take gloss varnish to satin finish. It should work similar on enamels. Similar to the pumice method... One thing about it is that the paint chemistry would not be changed, like flatting agents cause.... I have found that I have to use a lot more than called for to achieve a non gloss finish. This same look can be accomplished with latex, which in fact usually will outlast oneshot by quite a margin. Good luck.
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posted May 15, 2004 06:53 PM
I use a 50/50 mix of One Shot Poster with "SAME" color Lettering Enamel on window splashes! Provides durability,slight drag on slick windows, flat dry for contrast of SHINE on window.
p.s.Shelia Ferral in Alabama needs to get rid of some! Try getting in touch with her.
hope this helps
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posted May 15, 2004 08:51 PM
I went to my local painters supply and got enamel paint extender. It thined out the one shot for better flow thru my airbrush and it eliminated the gloss.
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