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Jim & Chris hetzler
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Icon 1 posted March 31, 2004 03:21 PM      Profile for Jim & Chris hetzler   Author's Homepage   Email Jim & Chris hetzler   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Finished a digital vinyl wrap on a 43' trailer and the customer just called and let us know they are having problems with some of the vinyl aroud the rivets that are beginning to crack. The vinyl is HP Mac TAC digital printed with a clear coat 53" wide 9' long. Applied dry, with the rivets being squeeged aided with a heat gun at 360 deg F. The shop temp was over 68 deg completed last December, trailer left warm shop after being inside 2 weeks.

Just not sure what to do here. Do have calls into the printer and the manufacturer.
But any feedback would be appreciated.


Jim


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they did not use cast, thats calandered vinyl.. Tenting is almost always calandered vinyl.. Spring back is never removed from calandered

thats my opinion.

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Hiya Jim,
It's a nice looking job. Too bad about the failure.
First, worry about making your client happy again. Perhaps your printer can make some sort of patches to cover up the blowouts. Hopefully the company that printed the the graphics will come through for you.
Second, document everything until this headache is settled. I would suggest is to start digging out the old paperwork and get ready for the battle. There will be a lot of finger pointing going on.
You'll probably have to supply documentation for everything, which may include material stock & lot numbers, the brand & type of cleaners you used, what methods of application you used, etc.
Did the printer offer you any type of written warranty? If you have written notes from your conversation with the printer, you may be able to use them in court.

Good luck,

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That could be a few things.
The vinyl...not the best in my opinion.
Vinyl/Clearcoat Compatability.
New Trailor or Old?
New paint?
Rivets painted?
Prepped correctly?
Rivet brush instead or squeegie?
Too much heat?
Not Enough heat?
Clearcoat not compatible with heat or high temprature?
Clearcoat not compatible with application?
Not enough squeegie or rivet brush pressure?
Any of the above issues can cause this.

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Jim..From the closeup pic it looks like calandered to me. I have used calendered vinyl over rivits with great success, but it was Avery..quite conformable.

MacTac is GREAT STUFF!!! for lining cupboard shelves, that is.

I don't envy you on this one. Trying to patch the rivits might be OK though.

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