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A restaurant owner is opening a new restaurant and wants her sign to be just like the one at the other location. This sign has flat acrylic faces. They are red with white letters. Clarendon Bold....for a Chinese restaurant?? I told her that I would price her painted faces. Well, she doesn't want painted faces because those from another location had faded badly. She wants "the computer letters". My question: Wouldn't lacryl or gripflex paint outlast translucent vinyl? How could I convince her when she's dead-set on vinyl?
Anyway, wouldn't you have to apply red vinyl to the whole face and reverse weed the letters without having a seam somewhere(they're 4x8 faces)? If I used red acrylic that wouldn't work either would it? You'd have to apply white vinyl to the ouside of the faces and then they would look black at night. Thanks
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[ February 19, 2004, 01:28 PM: Message edited by: Wayne Webb ]
-------------------- Wayne Webb Webb Signworks Chipley, FL 850.638.9329 wayne@webbsignworks.com Posts: 7404 | From: Chipley,Florida,United States | Registered: Oct 1999
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Hiya Wayne, Don't try to change her mind unless it's going to save you a whole lot of headaches. Quote the job both ways and make a note on how long you'll warranty either application.
Havin' fun,
Checkers
-------------------- a.k.a. Brian Born www.CheckersCustom.com Harrisburg, Pa Work Smart, Play Hard Posts: 3775 | From: Harrisburg, Pa. U.S.A. | Registered: Nov 1998
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Red transluscent vinyl works fine, and you could always subcontract the vinyl letters (Gregory Inc., or maybe a letterhead with a 36 or 48 inch plotter). Gripflex BACK-PAINTED then sprayed white would be the most durable. Translucent vinyls are only rated for 5 years, that I know of. I know of many back-painted faces going on twenty years that still lookk good. Good luck!
-------------------- Tim Whitcher Adrian, MI Posts: 1546 | From: Adrian, MI | Registered: Mar 1999
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1-Apply a 4'x8' sheet of vinyl to white trans acrylic. 2-Cut the letters out of cheap vinyl. 3-Apply letters to sign. 4-Trace letters with x-acto knife. 5-Peel out the letters. 6-Have a beverage.
I have a 30 plotter so thats how I do them.
-------------------- Brian Snyder Sign Effectz Woodbridge, New Jersey Posts: 723 | From: Woodbridge, NJ USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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Marc an' Brian s'ed it well . . . . but I'm still wonderin' are'nt clear acrylic panels still bein' painted on the inside?? (I'm like you Wayne, that grip-flex on the inside just lasts forever).
. . .heh, heh, but then, I have'nt worked around the 'lectric signs in quite a few years, 'cept I remember the one MAJOR drawback to painted faces . . . DENATURED ALCOHOL AND 19,000 PAPER TOWELS to clean out the ol' business an' bring in the new . . . MAN, I hated that job . If only I wudda just had to tear off vinyl in them days . . .
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"Look like a girl, act like a lady, think like a man, work like a dog" Posts: 5758 | From: "Sweet Home" Alabama | Registered: Mar 2003
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I have to agree with Brian and James... that sounds like a good solution... I might have to try that one... cheap vinyl and hand cutting them out of the good stuff... don't forget the beverage either!!
Like Checkers said, too, give your client a bid on both ways and warranty them respectively... I usually give my clients two bids if I have the time or if they are unsure of what they should do. I usually try to give them an economical solution and a top o' the line remedy.... One of my clients wants a 8x24 foot sign for a building, so I gave him a quote for a DiBond Substrate/Vinyl sign(econmical) and one that is all Laser Cut Acrylic from GEMINI... $$$$$.
Good luck!
ShaBU
-------------------- Craig Shaub Dig-It All Sign Company 306-30th Avenue Kenosha, Wi 53144 262-553-9519 dig_it_allsignco@hotmail.com Posts: 34 | From: Wisconsin | Registered: Jul 2002
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