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Don't need a copy of your cd, Joey. It's available for download on nakednews.com for our viewing pleasure. Didn't think you'd be into the weird stuff with those creatures. You must have had an awful childhood.
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People need to think about more than the desensitization (sp?) from watching modern television and movies. There's another aspect that I've become aware of.
It can separate you from reality. If you watch those car chase scenes, shootouts, man-meets woman scenes, it's so excitng that ordinary life seems boring. But all that stuff is a lie, people don't live like that, not for long anyway. I've been off TV for about 14 years, and I wouldn't go back. I now have a much fuller appreciation of things around me. If you're drinking that TV stuff in, you will probably not fully understand what I'm saying, but I'll try.
TV shows are to reality what styrofoam is to food. Not alot of nutrition there folks. I study all kinds of stuff. One that comes to mind is metal working. To learn it's role in the forming civilization, to get awe and joy in seeing the combination of function, strength, and art in ornamental iron work. Top it off by the fact that I get to work it myself in my own forge.
I now have more time for self improvement, to better serve others. I can be sure I'm voting for the right people and supporting the right causes. This is living. Watching TV is watching other peoples lives.
We are surrounded by all kinds of drama, struggle and triumph, but people would rather watch the fake stuff, go figure. Take this movie about Rosa Parks and the bus boycott, for instance. A well made movie. What started as a one day boycott ended up being about 380 days. There was all kinds of emotion there. Folks Harrassed and jailed by the police for no real reason. A black man had his house burned down, and had to watch as the fire department leaned on their truck. He was struggling real hard to stay non-violent. I don't know that I could have. It followed the rise of Martin Luther King Jr. A good enjoyable FACTUAL movie.
Maybe I can help the letterheads out there get an understanding of what I'm saying with this: Think of how incredible this trade can be at times. You study typography, color and illustration, then use it continually changing ways. Some days you do carving, maybe some custom airbrush work. It's just fascinating to figure out the right combination of design and materials for some jobs.
Now imagine if every subject in your world were this interesting. I gotta tell ya folks, I'm not the one that's bored here. (If anything, I have the opposite problem, too many projects and hobbies.)
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My friends Si, Mike, CJ and Chris, thank you for the kind words
I always found marriage to be an institution I didn't want to be committed to, to early in my life. I understand your dilemma and remember the perks of marriage before my wife passed. I've wondered sometimes if she had lived, would I have been in custody today after that state of torment. Granted, marriage is a wonderful union for some but I've been told I'm very high maintainance so therefor I rely on the younger then me generation to satisfy my needs and I enter the end of my trail years. Theres been a whole lot out there since I learned that self gradification isn't much fun, like most of you married folks already know but haven't brought it up with their spouse as of yet.
As far as the Janet Jackson thingie, when I saw it on the news, I thought that the dude just tore her bra off to see if it wasn't really Michael Jackson in disguise.
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On the news last night they said the network and Janet Jackson have expressed apologies.
Justine on the other hand just grinned and made flippant comments like "gave ya all something to talk about" (uh, nothing good JT) ... then he proudly boasts "it was so easy and fun".
That attitude of disrespect and entitlement unnerves me. His performance as a whole was lame. Basically following Janet around home-boy style and acting like a dog in heat. No great singing or dance moves even touched that number.
Don't performers get paid darn well to entertain us? When they fail so miserably, that the bad reviews are the buzz the next day, you would think there would be some regrets.
Aren't there any consequences for that kind of behavior and attitude?
JT really came down some notches in my book.
Not only for his blunder, but for his attitude about it afterwards.
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Justin, Janet, Nelly, and the entire hip-hop culture is a whole-cloth creation of MTV, which has defined the cult of celebrity as a pack of talentless media whores who do anything for attention. Whether or not a performer has any actual talent is immaterial - in a culture where fame is the equivalent of notoriety, and shock value is the currency to achieve it, is it any wonder these cretins would use the Super Bowl to reach the largest audience and get the most attention?
What I gag on are the pious moans from media execs and critics about "protecting children" - do these hypocrites ever watch MTV or listen to pop music? Do they ever question the emotional equivalent of raw sewage that kids bathe in every day in front of the TV, that generates the money they make? A stunt like this is mild compared to the swill that children see and hear every day, but because it got a mass ADULT audience, it was noticed, and so justifies all sorts of expressions of shock and dismay by those who live in oriental luxury as professional expressors of shock and dismay. The NFL didn't expect this? Give me a break. The NFL, along with CBS and MTV, are embarrassed all the way to the bank.
Do yourself a favor. Turn on a top-40 radio station today, and actually listen to some lyrics. Watch a few hours of MTV tonight. Remind yourself that what you see and hear is designed for and directed specifically to adolescents. Then ask yourself who is getting rich off this filth, and why anyone, anywhere, would be "shocked" by a Janet Jackson tit shot on national TV.
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Today she's bigger news than her brother, Coby or an ongoing military conflict.
The problem (IMHO) isn't a little skin on TV. It's that pack-tabloid-journalism is masquerading as news.
Democracy requires more than simply a "free press." It requires an informed electorate that is the result of investigative journalism. Too bad that’s a dying breed.
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The liberal press has really messed this one up. No one mentioned that it clearly a White taking advantage of a Black situation. More oppression. I was watching with the wife and sons, and it seemed so contrived it was funny.
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like i said in my other post....they run crap like this and everybody is on it(as you see with the number of posts & media coverage).....and they refused to run a political add.....no matter what its content was.....this is the point i was tryin to make.....that CRAP like this circus sideshow....will grab more peoples attention and "distract" from the real things and keep peoples attention focused on something that has no real relivance. so appathy and misguiding by the media....is its primary work today. so dont start with the purpose of the political add, look past that and see that "FREE PRESS" which is supposed to be"held up by the constitution.....is being diminished every day....soon you will be told only what you need to hear. and this is the sad part.......i think carl marx said it the best "SEDATE THE MASSES" was his approch and they did it in russia with vodka all thru the communist era. here its the media doing the job.....
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The Patriots and the Panthers treated this country to the most exciting Superbowl to date, and, arguably, one of the best fourth quarters ever to have been played.
Yet, instead of singing the praises of these glorious competitors, our witless populace seems obsessed with the classless antics of a self absorbed, washed up hag, and a vapid, talentless has-been.
Coming from a state that appears to have completely lost it's moral compass, the decent, humble, and hard working football club from Foxboro is a welcome ray of sunlight.
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I think as crazy as things seem to people in the US, we're still conservative compared to the rest of the world, mostly Europe.
The suggestive dancing and ripping clothes off each other on stage is something we could probably do without, but the simple fact there was a little boob on the... boob tube.. is being blown completely out of proportion. The US is just living a sheltered life, you should see the stuff that's aired on TV in other countries, it's simply amazing - and they don't think anything of it because it's already part of their daily lifestyle. They're much more open about sex and the human body in other areas of the world, the US still holds it as one of those taboo subjects which probably only perpetuates the problem. Just think if the US had openly nude or topless beaches - places like New Orleans and Mardi Gras or any other spring break destination with the beads wouldn't be a big deal at all.
Back in October the World Finals jetski races were here, of course people from all countries all over the planet were there. I'm down on the beach with my local friends, and next to us was a family from Norway. We're talking with them as they get their beach area all setup and the next thing ya know, all the daughters (of legal age, BTW) are topless (afterall, it was about 105 degrees and very sunny). They didn't think anything of it. The mom turned beet red and scolds them - "Put your tops back on, they don't do this in the US!".
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People are really ****ed because the sex show Hi-Jacked a fine super bowl. Them loosers think its all about them. Self centered, self indulgent, spoiled and disrespectful.
I pray the backlash costs them millions. And maybe Congress will get the FCC to regulate better.
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The hardest thing for the so-called rebelleous mind to accept is that, the people will, in time, rebel against their forcing it down everyone's throat. It has been tolarated to the point of near saturation. That's why you hear the rumblings. When it hits the point when people obviously take fro granted that these things can be used for shock value, people will tell those involved, "Put your tit back in your top, and go to the can to play with yourself.
I kinda see your angle on this...but I wouldn't consider a whole lot of ideas propogated by Europeans as something that the US should necessarily emulate.
Stupid, twisted, thoughtless behavior is just that, no matter what Geographic location it comes from.
No one is perfect, and we all do dopey things in a spur-of-the-moment lack of good judgement. But, celebrity liars being what they are...no one can tell me that this wasn't a planned event. The truth is a foreign concept among the celebrity elite.
Very simple, but true: My mom always said, "If John Doe jumped off a bridge, does that mean you should too?"
I'm for personal responsibility and a code of ethical and moral behavior .... if people have no personal moral compass and want to be followers, they should at least be smart enough to sense who is leading them in the right direction. Unfortunately, there's a lot of dumb people out there.
Cam - - What you said was terrific Imho....your thoughts make perfect sense from my perspective.
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Music aint music anymore. Hip hop, in my opinion is just a way for talentless non singing lazybutts to get rich. If it weren't for MTV, there would be no hip hop. ALthough, music has always had its rebels, but they were talented rebels. Elvis with his gyrations, The Beatles wit their hair and Johns views on life, but these were musical genius types. It doesnt take a genius to write poetry and say yeah yeah forty seven times in a song. And geeze, along comes Eminem, a token white rapper that is only famous because he acts like he hates the world and everyone in it, this all orchestrated by his handler, Dr. Dre. Its all gimmicks not talent. That's what Janet has taken to doing, using gimmicks. Although she is a very talented singer and dancer, she knows her time has come and she is grasping at straws. In Justins case, its just pure ignorance. He thinks because of who he is, he can do anything. Not true, as he is finding out. As for me, Bob Seger, Chicago, Blood Sweat and Tears, Blues Image, Sugarloaf, Jeff Healey, Fleetwood Mac, and others, where are you? Its time for music to come back and push this sad a** crap out of the way.
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I kinda see your angle on this...but I wouldn't consider a whole lot of ideas propogated by Europeans as something that the US should necessarily emulate.
Stupid, twisted, thoughtless behavior is just that, no matter what Geographic location it comes from.
...My mom always said, "If John Doe jumped off a bridge, does that mean you should too?"
Todd, I'm not sure you did see Mikes angle, (of course only he can say, but...) I think he meant that even though "The suggestive dancing and ripping clothes off each other on stage is something we could probably do without" The reason it happened (for the shock-value pay-off of everyone talking about it) is directly related to our conservative prudish self-image in America. And if that weren't true then "the simple fact there was a little boob on the... boob tube.." would not be "blown completely out of proportion."
Yeah, it was not appropriate for prime time according to the current status quo... & it was not art IMO & therefore had no place as entertainment... but it is only as big a deal as we make it, & although we have already made it a big enough deal to encourage more of the same shock-value scheming in the future... I totally agree with the comments that anyone who really thinks our kids were shocked should either watch more MTV, listen to more contemporary music, be commended for sheltering their children thus-far...
... or worry more about all the gratuitous violence that is IMHO far more prevalent & more detrimental in our societies entertainment industry.
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well now. My son, his friends, and a large group of teens around here hated it. They all said it was a publicity seeking gratiutous display.
They also said that a the few that are into the Hip Hop scene are the known stoners. So, over all it looks like this dog ain't goona hunt.
ITs over. Stick a fork in em.
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on a liter view of this..YOU ALL HAVE BECOME YOUR PARENT.....remember how they saw us 60's kids...and that we all were no account, lazy, drugies? hummmmmmmmmmmm
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Thank god I live in Europe...where nobody really gives a ****.
I drove semi's on the Janet Jackson tour in 1990 over all of Europe, and worked spotlights on the show everynight...we had alot of fun.
We see more than that on a showergel commercial over here, I'd rather see janets's tit than be subjected to Eminem as I am on a daily basis, by the younger members in this house:)
Back home in the Uk we have topless women in all the tabloid press for all to see, so I guess its something you grow up with and don't think about.
Irony is that I am subjected to alot worse, in text and pictures in my inbox everyday, which comes from the US, and which I can do very little to stop...bar changing my e-mail address, stuff that I have never subscribed too but just keeps coming...
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See, Henry proves my point and Doug summed it up nicely.
It's only as big a deal as we make it, and Americans do have a more prudish perception when it comes to these things.
I will agree that the act of someone ripping the clothes off another on stage is uncalled for - even though it's just meant for show it's borderline portraying a rape in my eyes.
I won't agree that a little boob on TV is going to traumatize anyone, afterall we've all seen it at a very young age and I guarantee it wasn't offensive in any way back then.
I also agree that it was completely planned, and that everyone knew about it before it happened. The media blows it out of proportion and the parties in charge pretend to be innocent.
It's easier to ask forgiveness than permission.
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Whether it's a little boob, a big fat ass and erotic dancing, it has it's time and place, Super Bowl half time ain't it.
I like to be able to comfortably watch a family show with my 5 year old and not have to worry about whether I'm watching border line porn in the next 5 seconds. It has great effects whether you think it does or not. As a parent I like to know what my kid is going to watch, you just don't expect that in a superbowl half time. But hey why don't we all just forget it and have janet perform the same act next on the Disney channel.
Looking at a nude person in a painting is very much different and has different effects than these sad excuse for entertainment, and thier bump and grinds. I'm glad they are making a big deal out of it, I know much won't change but a line has definatley been drawn in the sand.
It's comforting to know morals haven't completely died in this country yet.
I hope this costs them big time.
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I think I pretty much do agree with what Mike is saying, bar the European and prudish connections. I think Mike still was saying that he didn't feel it was necessary.
"Prudish" is in the eyes of the beholder. Where does prudish end? Just because something is accepted without thought by one person doesn't mean an offended party is automatically prudish.
A pedophile like Michael Jackson probably thinks that people who don't participate in his type of kicks with young boys are "prudish".
You see what I mean? Prudish is just a label that is given by people without boundaries to those who don't agree with controversial social behaviors.
Now, am I so lame as to be totally repelled by seeing a tit on tv? Heck no.
But the point is that like Bob Rochon and Curtis and some others have stated, it was uncalled for in this particular venue. Parents must have the choice to know when and if they should turn the channel when their kids are watching.
Even Clinton with all his sexual deviations put the V chip in tv's for a parent's protection.
If you rent a movie, you know by the rating what's to be expected...which is fine. It gives parents the decision making power for what they feel is appropriate for what they want their kids watching.
Joe Blow down the street might rent pornos and show them to his kids and think there's nothing wrong with that. Hey, it's educating his kids on the very natural human mating process he might try to rationalize. It's instructional and educational right? Yeah, ok. In the end sex is cheapened and society pays the price by becoming numbed and unaffected by increasingly vile behaviors.
It's not so much the boob and the boobs that our culture holds up as role models...it's not knowing what might pop up on tv next. The choice was removed from the parents and viewers.
My TV guide said "Superbowl" not "Supersluts".
I still say that even if it's "normal" for other countries to show unedited nudity and sexual acts on tv, that society and morality take a huge hit. Virtue is being displaced by bottom dwellers.
Some people live like swine and associate with like minded people and think that's normal...it's all they've ever known. They live by their urges and don't care to question their motives for acting the way they do.
A dog will walk up to a female in heat and screw her in front of a crowd of people...and that's the mark that some people in our country are shooting for.
No wonder Viagra is so popular....people are becoming so numbed by sexual imagery that they can't get cranked up anymore.
Is part of the shock factor exposing some pierced melon ravaged by time and gravity which had to be propped up by a push-up bra?
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Forget the skin. It isn't just the skin - or the music - or the artist - or where they are in their careers, etc. Though all the above comments are valid arguments and terrifically revealing about each of us - the #1 on the top ten list of why not to do it:
First and foremost, I think it's the appearance of a man tearing a woman's clothes off that really eats at many of us.
That's inappropriate - no possible argument - and no matter the audience. Nobody seems to be expressing that - and that is somewhat disturbing. But at least people are disturbed - and ALL ages it seems. (Deep down I think most of us have a sense of decency and a moral compass - regardless of age)
Any adult (with a sense of what it takes to raise tomorrows adults) knows it was done for publicity (though the artists may claim it was 'art' since the "action" was mentioned in the lyrics) - but the wrong message was sent to any kids watching and those two performers should take their high visibility with a bit more understanding about what they are putting forth as entertainment - with kids in mind.
I am surprised by the silence from women's groups. What are they missing here?
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I watched the halftime show and saw something that I thought far more controversial and irreverent to America than the Jackson/Timberlake lark. That was on air for less than 5 seconds while some yahoo cut a hole in an American flag and stuck his head through it for at least three minutes while yelling things that no one could understand. I find it far more uncomfortable that CBS and the NFL let that one through the gate. This is the most chersished symbol of all that is good about our country (yes I am an American). A major TV network condones desacration of it during airtime they claim is worth 4 million+ a minute by a guy that has less talent than a trained flea. This is not the America that I was born in.
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quote:Originally posted by Todd Gill: My TV guide said "Superbowl" not "Supersluts".
That sums it up Todd.
It isn't so much the boob appearing on tv, it's that the superbowl was the wrong place for it, it was unexpected and unwelcomed by the viewing audience and her clothes being torn off was just low. It's not like a button on her shirt was hanging on by a thread, the thread broke & her boob "accidentially" popped out.
No one was given a choice as to witness it or not. When you rent a movie, turn on a show you have warning labels or an idea what to expect. You get to choose if you want to watch that or not. There was no warning, thus no choice.
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I don't for a minute miss the validity of the points made by Curtis, Bob R. & others that this level of nudity was forced upon an unwilling public by deception & without warning slipped under the radar of watchful parents who do monitor the music & television that they expose their young children to. I certinely did not say any individual who was offended is a prude by anyones definition. Like Todd pointed out, such a term is relative, & for me to say that Americans seem to be more prudish about sex & nudity relative to many other nations does not mean that I don't agree that it was inappropriate in the context of the halftime show.
Todd, I thought your reply to Mike's post sounded like you thought he was saying if there is a greater tolerance of sleaze (relative term again)elsewhere in the world... that we should jump off that bridge too. At least the topless beaches, or the showergel commercials are not deceptively slipping under anyones radar & those cultures are not responding with overblown sensitivity because that is an acceptable part of those cultures.
Even if I think we Americans & ultimately the emotional health of our children would benefit from being less uptight about "innocent" nudity... I would still completely agree with Jay's observation (& Mike's)about the fact that this particular incident of nudity was in a context of borderline violence & abuse. On the other hand, although Janet faked embarrasment when she covered up... she didn't play out any drama of having been violated by JT...
which brings me back to my point if I ever had any... weather you actually see any nipple or not, our television is full of very explicit & blatent portrayals of voilent rapes, sexual abuse & violence that don't in any way try to mask the attrocities they are dramatizing... but they do mask the nipple. Which is worse?
OK, again... I get it that those shows are usually somewhat easier for us to screen out of our childrens view... & this "lesser evil" (IMO) still WAS out of place.
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In an increasingly desensitized populace, it takes ever-increasing levels of bad behavior to get attention, to create "buzz" for the parties involved. And if you want to know if CBS or the NFL were REALLY embarrassed or offended, find out if they honored the contracts with Janet, Justin, and MTV. Don't hold your breath thinking these jackwads didn't get paid for that stunt.
And that's what this was - a deliberate, choreographed act intended to get the attention of the benumbed masses who collectively spend BILLIONS to replace the dull reality of life with the artificial stimulus of "entertainment".
So my question is, how many of you who were "offended" or "shocked" or "dismayed" called the cable company and had your service disconnected? You want to protect your children? Start with that.
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I agree with you there Chris...and Doug, I mostly agree with your last post also. Thanks for expanding your thoughts on that.
And I do agree, there is a lot of junk on tv that IS far worse than boob shot.
Sometimes we're (the family) sitting around watching tv and something is said or done that you didn't quite expect either...and it leaves you thinking, "jeesh, I really wish my kid didn't just have to see/hear that."
So yes, valid points.
And I do agree with the thought that the visual of Timberlake ripping off Jackson's bra exposing her boob, gives the elusion of a guy forcefully having his way with a woman without her consent.
That is definately not an image that I want young males to think is cool.
Of course it was a planned event...and even though Jackson got attention, I hope it was negative attention that backfires and causes people to pass on purchasing her new cd.
Have a great week everyone...I'm done talking about those weirdos....I'm all Jackson'd out.
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What I'm really not getting here is WHY ANYONE would even watch that sh*t. The second, the 2d quarter ended, I changed the channel to AFV for 30 minuntes. I did'nt hear about the lame-o stunt until I read about it in the paper the next day.
For a bunch of "craftsmen" concerned about quality on a daily basis, how you sat through that mindless rhetoric is beyond me.
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I didn't find the dance routine any more offensive than the trashy lyrics of the song, yet no-one seems up in arms over that.
It's funny ... vulgar lyrics produce little reaction to the public at large ... vulgar actions produce little reaction to the public at large (crotch grabbing, suggestive dance, etc...) ... but show a bare breast (almost bare - pastie) and "up she comes"
I'm not defending it, the whole production was tasteless & crass, and was truly out of place; but I am questioning what most people (or press) were most offended by.
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Ok, I lied...one more thing to add...Spike Lee (black director) has the following quotes, which is refreshing to hear it straight from holyweird:
NEW YORK - Film director Spike Lee (news) criticized Janet Jackson (news)'s surprise breast-baring during the Super Bowl halftime show last weekend as a "new low" of attention-getting antics by entertainers.
Lee, speaking at Kent State University's regional campus in Stark County, Ohio, on Tuesday night, said there has been a decline in artistry.
He said it's not enough to be a good singer, and that entertainers "have to do something extra" — such as the openmouthed kiss Madonna (news - web sites) gave Britney Spears (news) and Christina Aguilera (news) during the MTV Video Music Awards in August.
"What's gonna be next? It's getting crazy, and it's all down to money. Money and fame," said Lee, the director of "Malcolm X" and "Do the Right Thing." "Somehow the whole value system has been upended."
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