Later, hopefully, we will find out who created this disaster, and then figure out a manageble solution.

Going off in a fit of temper to get revenge is not a solution... Revenge is a dish best served cold.

Also, I hope this terrible, monstrous disaster will give us a clue about what is really important for defense in the 21st century. It wasn't caused by a nuclear device, it wasn't chemical warfare, and it didn't cost whoever did it a great deal of money. It seems to me that the time of the big stick is over, and it's now time to try more cooperation and goodwill. A little bit of infomation from someone with a kindly eye toward the US might have prevented some of this, but it doesn't seem that the USA has gone out of its way to make friends in places that might be inclined to want to see the US suffer.

In spite of airport security measures, these fanatics have managed to sieze control of domestic airliners, and use them as weapons.

These people planned it. They knew that they were going to kill men, women, and children. They wanted to. There is no reasoning with them. Period.

The only right thing to do is to find them and execute them. They forfeited their right to live.

As for the era of the Big Stick, I believe we need it more now than ever. Again, we are not dealing with rational thinking people. There is no reasoning with them. The only thing they understand and repect if force.

I've never known a bully to back down because you are a nice person. All you succeed in doing is egg them on to do more of the same.

[ September 11, 2001: Message edited by: Glenn Taylor ]

loosely quoted...
"Today is a day that will live in infamy"
Franklin D. Roosevelt after the bombing of Pearl Harbor.

Talking is over, it is time to take action.

also my heart and prayers go out to all of the innocent victims and their families.

First things first.
We don't even know who did this.

Remember Oklahoma City, and the howls about getting back at the foreign terrorists?

Its time for leadership. Wish we had some I could feel good about.

[ September 11, 2001: Message edited by: Myra Grozinger ]

[ September 11, 2001: Message edited by: old paint ]

I can only hope that there is still a GIANT to awaken with this act of cowardice.

NOW is a poignant moment in history when America must display with prejudice that we will not be TREAD UPON.

We must awaken, and remember who we are.

All the soft bellied platitudes in the world will only ENCOURAGE this COWARDLY LOT of lowly BASTARDS.

Keep at it LE--and those who agree. These terrorists ARE COUNTING on your "REASONABLENESS".

Only they call it APATHY.

Wake UP America, and let them know WHY we are the greatest nation on the planet.....

or are we?

Then we need to positivly identify ALL those involved in the attack, not just the ones who commited the offence but those behind them who gave support and aid. Wether they are domestic or abroad. If this does turn out to be a group abroad, i find it hard to believe they did not have some kind of help.

We must then, and only then take strong and swift action against the remainding people involved. They need to pay for what they have done.

This is a tragady that did not have to happen, we as a people, not just the U.S., but the world need to takes steps to prevent any further action of this sort on any soil. Many countries experience attacks on a daily or weekly basis.

Without accountability we would live, or realisticly die in a lawless society. In raising children if they are not accountable to you for their actions they will sooner or later become accountable to the law. Ultimately they will account to God. Sorry, but that's the order of things.

I went home for an hour and watched CNN, Fox and Sky News.

I don't think we should knock each other for differing opinions today, I understand LE, Myra and Joe's thoughts, and think we should focus on today's victims, all of them rather than talk of slaughter and revenge, I understand your anger and frustration, but as yet we have no idea who is behind this. TV companies, spend hours analysing and speculating to keep us viewing. But as it was after Oklahoma, the blame was put on all sorts of "arab" nations, until Timothy McVeigh name came in the frame...we don't know.

What we do know is that 1000's have suffered in a futile waste of life, all innocent people, starting work or jetting off to LA or wherever or helping to rescue those already suffering....its a nightmare come true.

All morning, as I listened to this horror on the radio, a faint bell clanged far, far back in my head...

When I came home I went online looking for what happened on September 11. On this date in 1970, three airliners were hijacked by PLO terrorists and flown to Jordan, precipitating King Hussein to declare war on the PLO, driving them out of Jordan at the cost of 50,000 lives. It's known throughout the Arab world as Black September.

This isn't a disaster. It's a f***ing anniversary.

I also have trouble with the fact that our "friends", the Isrealis, didn't know about this! Their Intellegence people know about EVERYTHING going on in the Middle East! they are the ones to benefit the most from this attrocity, because whoever did this, will soon cease to exist!

[ September 11, 2001: Message edited by: Si Allen ]

Cam's last line really hit me. It did just get rough out there.

I have no connection to the people in NYC or D.C. but we live within 20 minutes drive of 5 big power plants. (they supply power to NY). We've always known if someone wanted to take out the US, our rural area would possibly be a target because of this. I've been checking the skies all day and the power plants are already under lockdown. I'm getting a little more nervous each minute.

[ September 11, 2001: Message edited by: Deb Fowler ]

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It seems to me that the time of the big stick is over, and it's now time to try more cooperation and goodwill. A little bit of infomation from someone with a kindly eye toward the US might have prevented some of this, but it doesn't seem that the USA has gone out of its way to make friends in places that might be inclined to want to see the US suffer.

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I'm sorry, but we were there to support the Afgan rebels and find a "managable solution. We were there in Beruit trying to find a "managable solution." We were there in the Sudan trying to find a "managable solution." We were there in Yemen trying to find a "managable solution." We were there in Zimbabwe trying to find a "managable solution.

And what did it get us? Dead Americans who were trying to "do the right thing." We send billions upon billions of our hard earned money all over the world to try and help. All we got to show for it is their disdain and hatred.

I'm sorry, but I think its time we look out for ourselves.

[ September 11, 2001: Message edited by: old paint ]

The US is not in the habit of starting a fight. But had darn well be ready to finish it.

These barbaric people commited cold calculated murder. They must be punished. We put the people responsible for the last attack on the WTC in jail. What did it accomplish? Nothing. They simply decided to up the ante. The only thing they understand and respect is force. The only way to stop them is to send them to Allah.

This was an act of war, committed by people who have nothing to lose and who hate us because we have everything that they want. Making nice and singing peace songs isn't going to work.

The last thing I am going to do is wait in line at a gas pump. Not only the inflated prices, but we are letting these foreign countries know that we need their oil. We depend on them. We are not going to cut back, we are going to hord as much as we can in a panic. I have already looked at my scedule to see ways I can cut back on my travel. And it wouldn't hurt me to cut back on a little food intake too and I'm not going to run to the bank and withdraw all my money.

We need to all pull together and show the terrorist we can buckle down. We can conserve and go without a few things to show power on all levels, not just on a deadly force level. To see all these people hording gas today just kills me. We have to fight on several levels.

Many activities were cancelled in this area today. Notre Dame and St. Mary's cancelled many events and sports activities. Someone said that was taking things too far. I think it's a good idea for people to stay home tonight and spend time with their families.

A question: What would these foreign countries, (who feel Americans are so spoiled,) think if we all conserved our resources and cracked down on our own wasteful ways? We should prove we have the power within ourselves to be independent and not rely on them for oil or anything.

We need to use the powers of our government, but also our powers as individuals. Do you think they would be raising the gas prices and food prices if we treated this like any other day instead of panic buying?

Maybe I don't know enough about war. But I think we will have a major slow down in many areas.

Thanks for time, and listening on this awful day, I hope to never see another one like it.