... fill in the blank space under the text. Im open for suggestions. I was thinking of getting rid of the bars and adding some art work but im not sure what of? Sorry about the quality I have no idea why its like this
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Posted by Santo (Member # 411) on :
Have you tried moving the the main text down with the botom of the M and A just above the top stripe and drop the slot bar and Chiroprator in front of the stripes? The Text sits too far out leaving a big space in the middle and nothing on the outside.
Posted by Jeffrey Vrstal (Member # 2271) on :
Is this a logo design or a 4 x 8?
Posted by cheryl nordby (Member # 1100) on :
Maybe move all the letters together more and forget about the lines
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Posted by Ryan Ursta (Member # 1738) on :
This Will be a 4x8 alumalite sign. I will probably pain the aluminum navy blue though. I have a new rendition of it that I will post as soon as I can get it to work???
Posted by Glenn S. Harris (Member # 2190) on :
my two cents: move the title copy down some... thicken the white outline around mistretta ever so slightly... shrink those triangles just a bit & ad more bars top & bottom... just a thought ....
Posted by John Deaton III (Member # 925) on :
I would make Chiropractic much bigger. Bring it down some and enlarge. Not as long as the name, but bigger than it is. Also, space it a little on the rounded rectangle. The tops and bottom of the letters are touching the lines and causing a tangent. If you do this, it will fill up some of the negative space you are talking about. Also, I would use another color for the name instead of the background color. White,light gray, etc. Good layout, just needs a little tweaking. I do alot of tweaking on my layouts. Never looks like it did when I started. Posted by Felix Marcano (Member # 1833) on :
I would take the main copy & arch it with the envelope tool (corel draw)
Posted by Ken Henry (Member # 598) on :
Here's an idea. If you could get a vectorized copy of a spinal column, the various vertibrae that make up a spinal column have a definite curve to them. You could flip one image, and use it on the opposite side to give you 2 nice curves, and ones that RELATE to the profession as well. Most Chiropractors do a LOT of work relating to disorders of the spinal column...slipped discs etc. Just another possibility. Hope this helps.
Posted by Mark Fair Signs (Member # 289) on :
ryan, i would prioritize the copy differently.
i would focus on the service or product the customer provides.
black and grey scale...
Posted by Ryan Ursta (Member # 1738) on :
Here is the new revamped version. The customer added some information which helped with the blank spots. I thickened the outline a tad around Mistretta and added some stripes around the pill.
Mark I thought the same thing about stressing the chiropractor ... but he is well known for his "name" in the town that he is in so he thought the same on the aspect of having his name larger.
Thanks for all the tips guys and gals
Ps. The pink around it is the color of the building. Hopefully the colors wont look too bad together.
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Posted by Brian Snyder (Member # 41) on :
I'm with Mark on getting the copy prioritized. Who cares if his name is well known in the town? I'd think he would want people who work in the town but live outside of the community to see the business. Also, people who are new to the community won't know his name either. Then again, I know what it is like to have a customer who just needs to feed his ego...
Posted by John Deaton III (Member # 925) on :
Ryan, it looks much better now. I do agree with Mark and Bryan though, the Chiropractic needs to be bigger. Maybe if you extend the copy to where it is wider. And the name being the same color as the background, it would be more visible with a color change to a lighter shade of blue or white or gray, etc. I don't think I've ever had a line of lettering the same color as the background. It seems to blend in too much to me. Just my opinion though. Posted by Mark Fair Signs (Member # 289) on :
another thought also ryan, every layout i do for a sign or logo design, i start out in grey scale.
i learned from other sign people long ago that if it works in black and white it will work in color.
just like john has pointed out, not enough contrast when the letter color is the same as the background even though you have a white outline around it.
i like your font choices though.
good job buddy,
mark
Posted by John Deaton III (Member # 925) on :
This is what I was talking about Ryan. More contrast with the name in a lighter color. I also made the chiropractic bigger by extending the copy some, and sized down the phone number a little. You've got a really good layout there. It will make a great sign. These are just ideas to help you along. What Mark says is very true also. IF it looks good in black and white, it will in color also. I've gotten lately where I give my customers a black and white layout unless they ask for color. That way they see the contrast through black and white, and if they leave the colors up to me, they will be better satisfied.
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Posted by Mark Fair Signs (Member # 289) on :
I do believe you hit the nail on the head john!
mark
Posted by Dan Antonelli (Member # 86) on :
Nice work guys. I really like the direction from John and Mark.
This is where we all learn from. Thanks for taking the time to give some valuable insight.
Posted by Ryan Ursta (Member # 1738) on :
Thanks guys. I think I will change the primary copy to white instead of the blue. The only thing is... none of the text copy was the same color as the background? The background will be navy blue and the text was set in olympic blue? I did do a 1/4" spaced white stripe around Mistretta though where it gaps to show the background color inbetween the primary copy and the outline. (again the quality of the jpeg is decieving)
John you really do awesome work I love all the layouts on your site! I appriciate yours and everyone elses help on this. I'll post another proof when I am finished ... jeez ya got me changin again!
Posted by Alan (Member # 2384) on :
Ryan , As I looked at the many designs folks did me being the bright boy I am noticed your in a "724" Area code (or that guy is).
Where is Sharpsville Pa. ? I live in Latrobe PA
Posted by Ryan Ursta (Member # 1738) on :
Sharpsville is right near Sharon Pa on the Pa/Ohio line. Its about an hour and 25 minutes north of pittsburgh.
