SO I am a ex-window splasher from California where they doit on the OUTSIDE in BRIGHT FLOURESCENT COLORS for sales and advertising puroses mostly.
I have put the Splashes on hold for the last 5 years since I have moved to Calgary mainly because they doit on the inside of the window and they dont doit to promote any sales (40% off) or such but mainly to show City Spirit (STAMPEDE: YAHOO!) I am experimenting with my OLD DAy-Glo Paints (yeh I brought 'em up here,eh)but they dont seem very secure on the window ( without that pleasing White latex undercoat. So I paint my Black (cel-vinyl) paint I got from a supply shop in Anaheim, let it dry and 'roll' my Flor. yellow over it and, just as suspected, the Black starts to loosen and come up with the roller.
My question that NO window painters will answer here in Calgary(because of more competition)is what paint to use??Nobody rolls here either, they foam brush the backfill- that would be sure to take my Black paint off!! What kinda Black is durable enough for this method? Is the colr used up here a tempra?or more durable. Pianting ends up kinda 2 sided up here and many scoff at looking thru an ugly window that has the whole back primered White. Personally, I like the Cali. way but, when in Rome.......
Posted by Si Allen (Member # 420) on :
Corey...get ahold of Pierre Tardif...he has covered Quebec City with fluorescent window splashes. Does them on Tyvec and pastes them up on the windows!
Canadian Signcraferts Supply can supply you with the stuff Pierre uses...(better than the stuff we get in the US)
Posted by Alfred Toy (Member # 3844) on :
The paint Pierre uses is Pizzazz from A R Monteith and Canadian Signcrafters supplies it. It is a Day Glo product manufactured in Canada by A R Monteith. Better to use the Black Pizzazz, more compatible with the other Pizzazz paints, or use a good regular black latex paint.
[ August 27, 2003, 05:31 PM: Message edited by: Alfred Toy ]
Posted by Steven Girard (Member # 3931) on :
Hi!! just mix your régular black latex or black pizzazz with richard's black to enforce it..but not too much this paint is rought ...and,it's look that's youre working by the inside so take care about the two windows temperature level difference of the thermos windows in winter.... The device is too mutch black give a crac...
Posted by Corey Wine (Member # 1640) on :
The reason I like the Cartoon Colour Company's Cel-Vinyl Black compared to latex is the DARKNESS. The cel-vinyl is REAL BLACK where the Latex has a MUDDY appeal about it. I now have a concern about Cracking or Flaking of the paitns on the inside of the glass. Any solutions. I plan tho check into that Pizzazz®! Thanks!
BTW: I have read Pierre's article a few times. Not my style, I like to go out there and be seen "making it up" as I go along but, thanks Si for the input.
Posted by Alfred Toy (Member # 3844) on :
If you want to try Pizzazz go to Color Your World, on 16th ave, Calgary and pick some up. That is where I bought my first batch, but they don't carry much stock, so the product might sit awhile. I now buy it from Signcrafters.
Posted by Jon Butterworth (Member # 227) on :
We have a regular round of window splashes to do every Monday and Tuesday plus several once-a-month customers.
We use matt white "removable" vinyl and do the in the workshop. Avery makes it. It comes in a 3ft x 50ft roll and costs less than a $1 per ft! You can't back up a panel with white paint for that price! And it looks good from the inside of the shop too.
I think some of the other supplies make a similar product. Look for "paint receptive" or "removable" matt white as a description. It will accept your Day-Glo fluros rolled on like a dream.
Customers love it. No messy scraping off paint when its finished. You can even put it thru a plotter if you want.
We cut it in sections and paint on the sign wall. Apply with soft squeege ... no need for transfer tape. Cut any "shapes" or outlines afterwards. It'ss eaasier to apply in rectangular sheets. I did a 8ft x 3ft panel in the wind the other day in about 10 minutes without a crease or bubble!
Posted by AdrienneMorgan (Member # 1046) on :
Corey....I'm with you, I hate painting on the inside....
But, if that is the ONLY way you can do it there, then you will have to experiment till you find what works.
The black I use for outlining is very opaque, (email me for info) but if you roll over it a bit too much it will break down as well.
You might try spraying a light coat of clear enamel over the black when dry before you go with the color.
Can I ask why you have to paint on the outside? Is it because you will freeze your @#$ off? If it's due to rain, a good spray of clear will hold up to a good rain.
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