Well I told you that he proposed to Liz and she accepted, but I didn't tell you that I'm going to be his "Best Man"! That is SO cool, no? I've heard all the "feminsim" and "chauvenism" dumb schtuff about this, but this is "family", no? We both swing chisels in the graphics studio, play in the same band, record in the same recording studio, ride dirt bikes, holler at each other with equal volume, (sorta. I'm louder actually) so why do his friends have a problem with this?? Mine didn't.
:^)
Posted by Janette Balogh (Member # 192) on :
SO cool .... yes!
Posted by cheryl nordby (Member # 1100) on :
Right On Rosemary! Most of my best friends are men. If I were to be getting married....I would say they would be perfect to be my 'man of honor. That's cool you and Latigo are so close.
Posted by Arvil Shep' Shepherd (Member # 2030) on :
You go girl !!!!!!!!!!!! Shep'
Posted by Jim Upchurch (Member # 209) on :
Does that mean you are going to the bachelor's party ?
Posted by Rosemary (Member # 1926) on :
You bet!! Liz wants me there!!
:^)
Posted by Bruce Bowers (Member # 892) on :
Just my 3.9 cents...
I would gather the flack expressed by Latigo's friends are because being your best friend's best man is one of the rites of passage for a guy.
Posted by Rosemary (Member # 1926) on :
I don't understand, Bruce.
:^)
Posted by Kimberly Zanetti (Member # 2546) on :
I think it's fantastic! When I married Clay, I would have loved to have my best friend Jeffrey be my "best man" but he's not the type of guy who would have been comfortable with it. Too bad, I think it's cool.
Posted by Bruce Bowers (Member # 892) on :
But, Rosemary... it's a "guy" thing.
I was my best friend's best man. I would have been disappointed if he hadn't asked me. I was my twin brother's best man and he was mine for the first one.
Personally, it is his and Liz'z wedding and they can do whatever it is to make their special day as great for them as they can.
Look, Dana and I got married in a Masonic Lodge room. We got a dial up internet account just so that we could broadcast the wedding on Head TV (Thanks Barb and Steve!). We had our reception down in the fellowship hall and had a mini Letterhead type meet afterwards. Then we invited everyone back to our house and partied til the wee hours...
How "normal" or traditional is that?
I can see how Latigo's friends might have a bit of trouble with this because it does go against tradition. Maybe they feel a little left out? Maybe they feel a little jealous?
I can not, however, fathom seeing you at the Stag Party. The dancers would be jealous...
Have a great one!
Posted by Rosemary (Member # 1926) on :
Dancers? DANCERS?!? Just let one of 'em show up! I'll teach them a dance!
:^)
Posted by Si Allen (Member # 420) on :
Forget tradition! Do what Lat and Liz want!
Just my 2¢ worth!
Posted by Rosemary (Member # 1926) on :
Your .02 is worth millions to me, Si!
:^)
Posted by Rick Sacks (Member # 379) on :
One time I was the guest speaker at a men's breakfast in town. A friend's wife wanted to hear me and she came dressed kinda like Charlie Chaplin...long blond hair up under her hat and painted mustache. Everyone laughed and she blended in and it was great. I almost went to a ladies party in a dress so I could extend birthday wishes to a friend. Hey... those traditions and barriers are there to be changed! Do it Rosemary!
Posted by Troy Haas (Member # 472) on :
I think there is some traditions you just stick with, this is one of them. The best man is chosen by the groom to be the person on his side of the isle to stand up and witness the union. I don't see where it has to be male or female.
With that in mind, if your brother wants you Rosemary to be his best man, that is his choice AND is keeping with the tradition. You are the one he has chosen to witness the union.
Just my .00002 worth
Posted by Don Hulsey (Member # 128) on :
The tradition IS to have your best friend stand up with you at your wedding. Maybe that is what Lat is doing... having his BEST FRIEND be his BEST MAN.
That is way cool.
My .01 cents worth
Posted by Rosemary (Member # 1926) on :
Wow!! I'm getting lots of pennies!! And GOOD ones too!
:^)
Posted by Deb Fowler (Member # 1039) on :
If anyone should be setting the stage, you will!! You deserve it, and btw, who ever did make those rules!??? !!
This is greaaaaaaaaaat news! You go girl! (and Latigo is a wise man!) It sounds like it is going to be a blast. Happy Days are here again. Glad to hear you're back in biz spinning heads again! What a family.
Posted by Rosemary (Member # 1926) on :
Thanks, Deb! I'm really glad you have a picture since I was last here. I always wondered what you looked like. You're pretty! Lots of the guys have pictures now. Its really cool to be able to see faces, no?
:^)
Posted by Kissymatina (Member # 2028) on :
I althought thought the person who stood for you was to be the person you could turn to for everything. If his friends are throwing temper tantrums about it, that shows immaturity (see the Lenny post) and immaturity and irresponsibility go together. I would want the person who is to be my right hand for wedding preparations and the person I could turn to for help to be responsible enough to do the job. The decision is Lat & Liz's. I applaud Lat for being the kind of man that can make his own decisions without letting his friends tell him what to do.
We chose not to have a best man/maid of honor. We had an outdoor wedding at the farm, the mayor married us, there were about a dozen people there, the only one sitting was Pap in his wheelchair. A close friend of ours that has some learning disabliites was my right hand for everything (she had a ball) and my step son was in charge of the rings. He expressed some disappontment at not being asked to be best man, but after the ceremony on our way to the party, he said how "cool" our wedding was.
Posted by Neil D. Butler (Member # 661) on :
Well as the great Bob Dylon once said... "The Times... They are a Changing".
I think it's time to make this Politically Correct, and change the "Best Man" to "Best Person".. No?
Posted by Rosemary (Member # 1926) on :
I remember your wedding, Kissy! I thought the whole idea was really cool. And you're right about Lat. He and I always have had each other to turn to, and I'm really glad that Liz is the same kind of person.
Neil, if you knew the St.Maries you'd know that we're as far from PC as it gets. I'm not a "person". I'm female, reloading, competition shooting, chisel slinging, bass guitar playing, free voting American, Montana truck-driver butt kicking "best woman"!
hehehe
:^)
Posted by Chris Elliott (Member # 1262) on :
hmmmm..."Best Person"?...I guess could live with that (probably about as PC as I'll get, though, since I'm one of the fathers of a girl named Rocky, I don't really have a problem with calling a female "Best Man") uhhhh,wait a minute, that doesn't sound quite right....I'm Rocky's dad without any question but, she also has a step-dad (who's a good guy) who helped raise her from '98 until she came to live with me. Anyway, we're getting ready for my daughter's wedding June 8 and Kelly may or may not even have a Best Lady present. Currently we're planing to have a small wedding for family & a few close friends and invite everybody else to the reception & dance that follows. I'm amazed at the number of questions that pop up getting ready for an event like this so Rosemary...just do whatever y'all think is right & let the rest of 'em adjust their attitudes!
I'm also a little confused about one thing concerning Lat's Stag Party.
quote: Dancers? DANCERS?!? Just let one of 'em show up! I'll teach them a dance!
:^)
Does that mean you're gonna dance at the party? If so, I'm sure Lat's friends will forget any resentment they might feel about you being Lat's Best Man HEY...DON'T SHOOT ME...I'm just kiddin''bout that
Seriously, Best Wishes to Liz & Lat, with the St. Marie family involved I'm sure it'll be a memorable ceremony!!
Posted by Neil D. Butler (Member # 661) on :
Well said Rosemary... You sound like my kind of Pers... oh ah Female. lol
Posted by Chris Elliott (Member # 1262) on :
Hey Rosemary,
I just noticed you answered Neil's post while I was typing up my reply & got a chuckle out of your answer! Only one thing made me scratch my head...that part about bein' a "Montana truck-driver butt kicking "best woman"! "!!
I'm a Montana truck-driver so does that mean yer gonna TRY ta kick MY butt??? If so, you wouldn't be the 1st Montana lady to think she could and I'm not making any prediction but it'd be an interesting contest for sure!! (Rocky's mom was a Montana lady herself)
Posted by Rosemary (Member # 1926) on :
Hi Chris! NO! I would NEver do that! Or even try! And it wouldn't be a contest! I'm MUCH too nice to try that with a Letterhead, no? We get lots of loggers and over-the-roaders in here that think they can't deal with a female for their jobs. When they leave here they're either thinking differently(with a lighter wallet), with a smile, OR they're shufflin' on down the road to a different shop!
:^)
Posted by Chris Elliott (Member # 1262) on :
OK...I understand now i've met some of the type you're talkin' about & I just shake my head & realize they sure aren't lookin' at the world the same way I do!! And as far as it being "no contest" if you did try, I'm more than sure you'd give me a run for my money!! (NEVER underestimate a woman,...especially if she's packin' a Kimber Ultra Carry .45) (Rocky's mom was a li' ol' thing but boy, was she fast on her feet AND a good shot too!! )
Posted by Rosemary (Member # 1926) on :
Hey!! How do you know I carry a Kimber??? Do you hang out at AW, FALFILES or Service Rifles?? Wow! Cool, Chris! Do I know you with a board handle? What a surprise!
:^)
Posted by Doug Allan (Member # 2247) on :
& here I was think you were a butt-kickin' truck driver yourself, not a butt-kicker of truck drivers. I read too fast.
Posted by Chris Elliott (Member # 1262) on :
Hi Rosemary,
yeah, we've got a lot in common and I'll answer your questions over the phone when I call the shop (I don't have Caller ID blocked & will stay on the line). I just caught your other post as I was getting ready to reply, so if it's OK with you let's continue this visit later. Hope I didn't get you in the doghouse.
[ April 21, 2003, 02:36 PM: Message edited by: Chris Elliott ]