I would like to hear a review from anyone who owns, or who has used, the summa DC3.
Posted by TransLab (Member # 470) on :
.. Bump ..
Posted by Jim Doggett (Member # 1409) on :
Hi Mike:
As a matter of fact I both own and use the Summa DC3, but since I didn't pay for mine I may not be an objective opinion resource
You might wish to contact our sales manager, Drew Groshong, as he can refer you to users that have given us permission to divulge their names.
Drew can be reached at 800.527.7778 x 105 or drewg@summa.us
Best Regards,
Jim Summa
Posted by Tony B (Member # 935) on :
I'd like to hear something as well. I got some samples from Summa a while back and they look pretty darn good. I'd also like to see how it would print something like Bob Rochon's truck lettering job posted on the portfolio a while back.
Posted by Jim Doggett (Member # 1409) on :
Hi Tony:
If Bob Rochon would send the file ( or upload to www.summadirect.com/upload ), I'd have copies printed and mailed to any who request it.
If Bob's on-board so are we.
Regards,
Jim
Posted by Bob Rochon (Member # 30) on :
Got the green light from the customer, so I will upload this file to Jim. I'll send the original .tiff file.
Jim,
Could you be so kind as to send me one as well?
Thanks Bob
Posted by Jim Doggett (Member # 1409) on :
Will do Bob
Thanks!
Posted by Roy Somers (Member # 403) on :
Sooo, The logical question now would be, How do we request one?
Posted by Ryan Ursta (Member # 1738) on :
I'm with Roy! I would also like to see a finished graphic from this machine.
Posted by Jim Doggett (Member # 1409) on :
Hi Roy, Ryan (others),
Dave Parsons, in our sales department, has offered to take the point on getting samples out to everyone. Just post your address here, or send a private e-mail to Dave at davep@summa.us.
"The file" is still in transit to us, so please hang tough a bit longer. Once we have it, knocking out a bunch of copies is pretty easy, so we should be able to mail them out the same day (right Dave? ahh the joy of being a volunteer )
Best Regards,
Jim
Posted by Amy Brown (Member # 1963) on :
Jim,
I would love to see Bob Rochon's graphic printed on a DC3.
Ambo Design P.O. Box 877 Lake Helen, FL 32744
Thanks!
Posted by Neil D. Butler (Member # 661) on :
My Edge machine don't stop, and it's almost paid off. Soooooooo I will be looking at a wider format machine in the not too distant future. And the DC3 is a posibility. So a Sample would be nice.
Posted by Gene Uselman (Member # 2508) on :
Sample here also. Will you be setup at LVegas in April? My edge is about paid off as well- time to make another purchase. Gene
Posted by Jim Doggett (Member # 1409) on :
Hi Gene:
We will be in Las Vegas for the ISA Expo, booth number 1274. We'll have computers attached to everything (a couple of Summa DC3s and 4 or 5 SummaCut and SummaSign cutters).
Bring a CD and I'll print and cut your images. Sorry, only CDs work ... we had a memorial service for floppies and Zips some time ago. Also, we'll probably be running CorelDRAW and Photoshop, so the file would have to open in one of those ... eps, pdf, cdr, ai, tif, jpg, psd, etc.
Check the show program for our location, but if our new booth is ready in time you should be able to see us from the entrance.
Thanks,
Jim
Posted by Tim (Member # 1699) on :
I am looking into these as well and would love to see a sample, thanks
Posted by Bob Rochon (Member # 30) on :
Jim got an error uplaoding the file, check and see if you recieved it please.
Posted by Jon Aston (Member # 1725) on :
Jim:
I would like to receive a sample print of Bob's files as well, please.
Thanks in advance.
Posted by Jim Doggett (Member # 1409) on :
Hi Bob:
It's a head-scratcher for me why it didn't work. If you file size is too big, you may run into problems with packet loss over the web depending on the speed of your connection. But I just uploaded a 50 MB file to test the script and had no problem.
I guess I should ask, how big is the image? For practical purposes, we'd probably print (and cut) the samples 3 across, so they'd fit in our large envelopes with minimal bending, spindling and mutilating. If you resize it in Photoshop to 12" x 12" @ 100 dpi CMYK, then save the tiff using LZW compression, it'll stay under 1 MB. I'd even go 2 across if you wanted to see the sample a bit larger, say ~18 inches wide.
Call me at 800.527.7778 x 106 to discuss further.
Thanks!
Jim
Posted by Jim Doggett (Member # 1409) on :
Hi Jon,
I love ya like a brother. But you sell Gerber and are a wholly owned subsidiary of the same, I believe. So, how’s about you and I compare Summa DC3 to MAXX/2 output, and do a cross-trade. You pick the file.
Or if you’re seriously considering the resale of Summa DC3, please contact Rob Gorman in our Boston office at 781.233.7494 or robg@summa.us.
Thanks,
Jim
Posted by Keith Slack (Member # 2040) on :
Now it's getting interesing!! A sample from BOTH Jon and Jim would be educational to say the least.
Posted by Neil D. Butler (Member # 661) on :
I want to see Blood! heh heh
Posted by Bob Stephens (Member # 858) on :
I will be in the market for a new digital printing devide in the near future. Please send a sample if you would.
Anybody want to buy a Roland?
Posted by Jon Aston (Member # 1725) on :
Jim:
You are on, brother! Let's swap!
I've already dropped a note to Bob Rochon to request the proposed file...and I'll pick a few others as well. Heck, let's pick a selection of print media while we're at it...this will be fun.
Posted by Tim (Member # 1699) on :
I think Jon has a fantastic idea goin here. I think there are many of us considering the move into adding print-print/cut abilities, and what a better way to compare output/media than the same artwork output from each machine.
Posted by Jon Aston (Member # 1725) on :
Hi Tim.
To give credit where credit is due, it was Jim's idea but I'm happy to call it the Gerber MAXX2 CHALLENGE (...whatdy'a think, Jim? Has a nice ring to it, dontchya think?)
If you haven't entered the print/print-cut world yet, you might want to consider a Gerber EDGE first...as I'm sure even Jim would agree: it's a more affordable, more versatile machine than either his 36" machine or our Gerber MAXX2.
If you're thinking it's "too small", talk to some Gerber EDGE owners (on 4EDGEtalk.com, if you like...or we can give you references).
Still, it is never a bad idea to plan too far ahead...
Posted by Jon Aston (Member # 1725) on :
This looked like a hot challenge...but two weeks have passed and I haven't heard another peep out of Jimmy D or Bob Rochon.
Jim:
Are you still up for this? Have you run Bob Rochon's file yet? Is a sample print already on it's way to me?
Bob:
I sent you an e-mail using the address in your Letterville profile and wonder if it is still current(?).
On the other hand, if you are too busy or are reluctant to get in the middle of this (either of which I can fully appreciate and accept), please let us know.
I will gladly accept Jim's gracious offer to let me choose other image files, so your involvement isn't necessary from my perspective (we have plenty of wide format images to choose from). I must admit, however, that I like the added drama of running a real job by a true Letterhead!
Posted by Howard Keiper (Member # 1250) on :
Why not add another facit to the jewell??
How about at the show, someone...anyone...brings the printed output (on vinyl or any other cuttable material), from ANY printer: Maxx, DC-3, Mutoh, HP, Encad, Mimaki, Roland, etc., etc. with it's associated vector file to the Graphtec booth as well, and compare the results??
Maybe your favorite printer is neither the Summa nor the Gerber?
hk
Posted by Jim Doggett (Member # 1409) on :
Hi Jon:
I've yet to hear back from Bob. He made an attempt to upload the file to our site but got an error. I don;t know if he gaveit a second shot, but I don't have a file.
I offered, in an e-mail to Bob, to have him FedEx a CD on our FedEx account. But, I've yet to hear a reply.
Meanwhile, I have MANY folks that wish to see a sample. In truth, I'm not familiar with the image the Tony B spoke of originally. If it's a monster and some other image would be better / easier to upload, I'd encourage all who are interested to send a file via:
I got a call from you guys offering a sample from a file that I send, I'll be sending something soon!
Thanks! Tony
Posted by Chuck Churchill (Member # 68) on :
Jim, Jon and any other digital image equipment vendors that are in on this. I want a sample of Bob's design to.
If you want some more designs to include in the pack I have a beautiful tiff file of a customers logo for a backlit. File was built at 800 dpi and take about 300 MB on a CD. Image has a very high tech 3D look to it. It will print out at about 8" x 15" without mods. I would be pleased to make you each a CD and send it to you this week.
My customer would be get a kick out of seeing his logo go off to a lot of signshops.
Posted by Jon Aston (Member # 1725) on :
Chuck:
It doesn't look like Bob's file is going to happen.
I would be happy to print your file for you...and anyone else who is interested in supplying a file.
Posted by Bob Rochon (Member # 30) on :
Jon dont give up on me yet!!!!!!!!!!! I am just getting back up to speed from the flu, I know I know but I've been busssyyyyyy. And yes I was in Texas for a bit.
anyway I'll burn the disks today
[ March 07, 2003, 03:58 PM: Message edited by: Bob Rochon ]
Posted by TransLab (Member # 470) on :
Jon - Jim
I have a test file I'd like to see samples of.
You can download it from test file Posted by Stephen Deveau (Member # 1305) on :
Jim I like to have a sample of its work as well.
To me The Edge is dead! To small of a format panel Posted by Jon Aston (Member # 1725) on :
Mike:
Please see your e-mail.
Stephen:
I'm afraid that I'll have to disagree. The Gerber EDGE is many times more versatile than anything you can find to compare it too, and is still a very viable and relevant investment for most commercial signshops...particularly as their first or second step into digital signprinting.
It may well not be right for your business (I don't know), but it is FAR from "dead".
Posted by Jim Doggett (Member # 1409) on :
Hi Mike:
I grabbed the file, but have to respectfully decline.
At screen resolution, it looks like your basic printer test image showing small type, solid fills, lines (in percentages of black), photos and gradients.
But we don't print what's on screen; we print the file. And at 100% (pixel for pixel -- what's actually in the file -- that we print), there are two issues:
- Photos are scanned from a printed piece ... moire hell ... that's the case with all three photos
- Gradients are U-G-L-Y (poorly built). Non-complementary colors are blended together, making the transitions muddy as heck ... they're gradients that would never show up in a design anywhere
Sorry dude, but we don't print stuff that's designed to look bad. While it seems like a "good test" we don't get into "our crappy prints look better than the other guy's crappy prints."
I'd be happy send samples that illustrate Summa DC3 can print small type, solid fills, lines (in percentages of black), photos and gradients -- and cut around them all in a single step. No problem.
Or, if you don't want me cherry-picking the images, please upload a graphic to our site (Uploader). But make it something real ... something that someone would pay money for. Please no ugly stuff that would be immediately rejected from any design process.
Thanks!
[ March 07, 2003, 07:00 PM: Message edited by: Jim Doggett ]
Posted by Bob Rochon (Member # 30) on :
CD's are burned, they have .tiff, .psd, and for Jon I even have the .plt files. I need to get some padded envelopes tonight at Staples and they will be in tomorrows mail.
Posted by Tony Lucero (Member # 1470) on :
I "had" a Gerber Maxx for awhile, and now am happy to say I have an EdgeII which has performed quite nicely. I still think the MAXX is a great idea. It makes so much sense that Gerber who has done such an excellent job with Edge technology should be able to make a "wide format" Edge printer. My opinion that the sign shop of tomorrow must be involved with some aspect of wide format (outdoor durable) graphic production. Jon and Jim Please send me one of each sample print when you get the file you're waiting on. Thanks
Posted by TransLab (Member # 470) on :
Jim,
I must respectfully ask you to get off your high horse...
In the real world we don’t always have control over what we have to work with. These are photos of 42” x 31” panels we’ve done, sorry for poor photo quality; they were grabbed indoors yesterday with no flash. In all three panels the customers were very pleased with the end product. I must say that I was surprised with the results considering what we had to work with.
In the Metso panel, the customer supplied a catalogue for the images, and 2 day deadline.
The Hotel could only supply a postcard, but they wanted that image.
In the RSM mining composite, the blast in the background was taken as a screen grab from a video they’d made of the blast, the other 3 photos used were cropped from 4”x6” photo prints.
My point is we can’t always have 1200 dpi color corrected images to work with. Bob Burns recent post on resampling illustrates this point. I don’t tell my customers “Sorry Dude, I won’t print your crappy image.” I just get the job done, to the best of my ability, using the material and equipment that I have to work with. If the DC3 can only produce decent results with ‘perfect’ files, then perhaps it is not the machine for me, nor many other sign shops.
The test file I wanted printed is exactly that, a test file, not a demonstration file. And the results would be for me to judge, not to demonstrate as a sample at a trade show. I want to measure horizontal and vertical scaling. I want to see those tiny letters; I want to know where the printer will lose the line pairs.I want to see how the printer handles those horrible blends; I want to see how evenly it prints process grey. I want to refer the solids to a sample chart. The photos in the file were scanned from a test pattern original I use to calibrate my color copier. I’m fully aware of the moiré, but I want to see the skin tones, the sky blues, and the shading of the yellows, reds, and greens in the salad bowl. I won’t be looking at the photo images under a loupe, that’s not the point. Don't presume to tell me what I'm looking for in a print. It was nice of you to provide the pixel per pixel view of a piece of the image, realizing, of course, that when viewed on screen it represents a 417% enlargement of the image, print it in real size at 300 dpi and you’ll see that the image is certainly sharp enough to demonstrate the properties that I want to see.
Print the file or don’t print the file, but to say you won’t print it because it may look bad is a cop out. The DC3 may well impress me, it certainly did at last years trade show in Florida, but your handling of my request for a test print hasn’t impressed.
At this point I have a need for a wide format, digital outdoor printer. I’ll need it to print directly on a number of substrates including reflective vinyl. It’s main use will be for safety labels, pipe markers, outdoor signage, and vehicle graphics. My timeframe to purchase will be within 6 months, I’ll need the machine up and running before Oct 1. The decision to buy a machine has already been made and I am now looking for information and feedback over the choice of actual hardware.
What concerns me more in all of this is the fact that this thread has been floating on this board (actively) for over six weeks, and I haven’t seen a single post from a DC3 owner. I can only conclude that either the user base is extremely small, and none of them frequent this board; or that none are enthused enough to post about the product. I was hoping to see an unbiased assessment of the machine rather than be directed by a company to one of their ‘pet’ customers.
There are many factors that will influence my decision over what machine to buy, not the least of which will be my perception of what support to expect from a company and whether I'm confident that supplies and consumables will be easily available over the expected life of the machine.
Regards,
Mike
[ March 09, 2003, 01:03 PM: Message edited by: TransLab ]
Posted by Bruce Evans (Member # 44) on :
Gotta agree with Mike on this one. In the "Real World" most of us are dealing with crappy files. We seldom are using "perfect" files. It would make sense to know what a "not-so-great" file is gonna print out like.
Mike, have you looked into the "Matan" printers? They are higher priced, but work off of a 36" wide continuous foil like the Edge. The machine has 4 seperate heads and hold all the ribbons at once. It's pretty impressive to see. I've sent them a file and they've sent me back sample prints and even went as far as printing out my same file at a show for me.
Posted by Bob Rochon (Member # 30) on :
Doesn't matter what you print with, crap in equals crap out. Whether you deal with customers that supply crappy files or not.
I see Jims position to a point, I did not see Mikes file nor am a file judge but what we have here is a "dual" between the maxx and the DC3 and the machine will print what it is given to print. So If it were you that had to put your best foot forward, would you wear your best clothes or put on your less than best.
No machine will produce miracles! So maybe we need to work with our customers to produce better files and make a nice additional profit to boot.
Posted by TransLab (Member # 470) on :
Hi Bob,
I'm not looking to see a miracle, just a print.
I get the impression Jim is looking for a print 'trophy' that he can use to wow at trade shows. Your file may well provide that. 'Sorry' thats not what I provided, nor is it what I'm looking for.
Posted by Neil D. Butler (Member # 661) on :
Give it to him Mike! What a cop out! Jim just look at some of my work I've done on the edge, in almost all of these Jobs, the Music trailer included, just check out the portfolio page, all those images, the guitars, the drums. the amps, All of them were scanned in on a cheap canoscan scanner, from the Customers Brochures, that's it! there were no high resolution, color corrected, digital files to work with, so we had to use what was supplied. Like Mike said get off the Horse, most large fomat prints that we use are for exterior use on vehicles. And I never had a customer say anything about the color being off on any job I have ever done.
So excuse me for being taken aback on your attack on Mikes files, I for one don't know much about the Technical side of Digital printing, or all the Jargon that goes with it, All I know is that I can scan, adjust in photoshop, if need be the sharpness and color, and print away on the Edge without to much hassle, with great results.
Posted by Bob Rochon (Member # 30) on :
Jim,
I also tried again to upload my file to your site, this time I had to disable my firewall and I "beleive" it went through.
Please confirm if you received it and that the quality is acceptable.
Thanks Bob
Posted by Steve Burke (Member # 2674) on :
Ding Ding!
Sale on asbestos underwear in aisle 5!! Posted by Neil D. Butler (Member # 661) on :
I forgot to show my tongue in my cheek Jim, so don't take my comments personaly, or to seriously. And I do have my Asbestos thong on as we speak.
Posted by Doug Allan (Member # 2247) on :
Jim, I'm not sure if I need a DC3 at the moment, but I'd definintly like a print of Bob's classic design. & you never know, I just may need to expand with an equipment purchase, so chalk me up for a sample print too in the interest of getting the word out on some new equipment I've been hearing about, but have not been shown.
Posted by Neil D. Butler (Member # 661) on :
Ba-Bump!
Posted by Jim Doggett (Member # 1409) on :
Hi All-
For a sample of Bob's file, please send an e-mail to davep@summa.us. Dave's taking the point to assure no one is left out.
Mike, and supporters of Mike's position -
The irony is not lost on me that all have expressed that "this is what it's like in the real world" while at the same time criticizing me for merely requesting something from the real world.
This thread heated up when Tony posited that it'd swell if we printed a file that Bob Rochon created. Not knowing what Bob's image was, I said we'd be happy to print it and provide samples to all. Bob -- with nothing in it for him -- has gone to exceptional lengths to get permission and transfer the file to us. I'm not afraid of printing "real world" work, and especially wish to thank Bob for his participation and hard efforts. You da man Bob!
Mike (alone),
Call it my high horse if you will. But the file you sent looks bad, by design. Hence the more accurately our printer reproduces what is actually in your file the worse our printing looks. Sorry, we don't do that, even if it means losing you as a prospective client.
Regards,
Jim
PS: when scanning preprinted photos (copyrights notwithstanding) load the image in the scanner at an angle ... that can help to reduce moire so less blurring is needed to eliminate it.
Posted by Neil D. Butler (Member # 661) on :
Mike, out of Curiosity, is'nt some of that file you requested Jim to do, is that a Ricoh Test? If it is, It should be good enough for a test print.. Gidyup Jim! Heh Heh
Posted by Doug Allan (Member # 2247) on :
I've had my Summa sample for some time now, & wonder if anyone who got one also got the Maxx2 print? The only request I made for the sample was earlier in this thread. Maybe I should ask Jon directly. Since he seemed to jump right on the idea of a challenge, I guess I thought he would follow through with getting prints out to those who requested it.
I'll go ask him now, but anyone here get one already?
Posted by Bob Stephens (Member # 858) on :
I too recently received my Summa sample print just the other day. I havent received any other samples to compare it to?
Posted by Scott Pagan (Member # 2507) on :
Boy did I jump into this late. While Jim and Jon (and anyone from Matan?) are printing, I'd like to formally request a sample of each as well. We are currently looking into a nice fill between our Scotchprint 2000 (52" print width) and the Edge 1 (11.875"). I guess the challenge is on. Also, have there been other "head to head" comparisons on manufactuer specs. as well? Print speed, materials costs, etc. should factor into all this as well.
Posted by Ted Nesbitt (Member # 3292) on :
Okay--Jon and I are fresh back from ISA. Sorry Jim, never did hook up with you at the Summa booth!
Anyways (maybe this isn't such a wise idea) but let's resurrect this MAXX2 vs DC3 thing! I saw the Summa running at the show, and it looked good.
So, let's drop all the problems with Mike's files BS. Let's get Bob's files on CD, we can both run them, I'll send some to Jim, Jim can send some to me, and we'll get them out to you guys!
In a way, I can understand Jim's hesitations to print a file. I know what you guys mean about getting crappy files from your customers---let's not go there. I get 'sub-standard' files all the time for sample requests , and believe me, it doesn't make you feel too good to crank something out, even if it is the file's fault and not my machine's fault. So, instead of beating on Jim and possibly Jon and I, let's all work together and try and help some of you guys make a good informed decision that's going to allow you to make the right decision for your shop. I know Jon and I want you to be successful so you buy more stuff, and I'm sure Jim does too!
I will touch base with Jon tonite to see if we did indeed receive Bob R's file on CD. If not, could you please make arrangements to get it to me Bob?
Posted by Tony Lucero (Member # 1470) on :
Dear vendors, I also requested the samples that were offered to all who were interested. To date I have not received anything. Is there some other criteria that one has to fulfill to get these. Perhaps there is some screening on who is a "real" potential buyer rather than a curious "tire kicker". We purchased the first MAXX delivered in the U.S about 4 years ago. After two years it wasn't up to par and Gerber did the "right thing" and worked out a fair resolution. Because of that I have not given up on Gerber and consider them a Top Notch company. Wide format outdoor durable, above average resolution printing is a future purchase for our company...the offer to provide test samples seemed genuine...are you guys serious?
Posted by Jon Aston (Member # 1725) on :
To date, we have not receieved the file in question from Bob Rochon. I don't have an FTP site at my disposal, so he had agreed to Fedex a CD to me. If I don't see a post from him by the end of the day, I will give him a call.
For the record, I would be pleased to get Mike O'Neil's "ugly" file printed, but seem to be having a tough time getting that file, as well.
Also for the record, no-one is more upset than me with the fact that those of you who want to compare Gerber MAXX2 prints with Jimmy D's are still waiting on MAXX2 prints. As soon as I have Bob's file, we will start "production".
[ April 11, 2003, 12:41 PM: Message edited by: Jon Aston ]
Posted by Ted Nesbitt (Member # 3292) on :
Tony;
With regards to "tire-kicking", I don't have a problem with that----you never know where tire-kicking may lead someday. If we do a good sample for you and get it to you (& others) it definitely keeps our offerings in the front of your mind.
That said, remember that we "vendors" are no different than any of you-----hundreds of things to do, and not nearly enough time to do it----sounds almost like a sign shop doesn't it?? Before going to ISA, I know that Jon and I had alot on our plates, and I'm sure that 'Summa JD' did too! Jon and I weren't off the plane 48 hours before we were doing seminars on Thursday to our Toronto customers (3 sessions!) to report on the ISA show.
So, again, let's get these Bob and Mike files to both Summa and ND, give us some time, and we'll print them.
Once the files are rec'd, Jon or I will post here---samples can be requested.
Posted by Mike Barnes (Member # 2277) on :
Hey Jim,
A sample for me would really be nice. Thanks!
Posted by Tony B (Member # 935) on :
I got my Summa sample a few weeks back and the quality is fantastic. The gradients and the feathered shadows came out great, (they printed my logo) very smooth.
If I had the cash today I'd buy one tomorrow.
Posted by Doug Allan (Member # 2247) on :
quote: Also for the record, no-one is more upset than me with the fact that those of you who want to compare Gerber MAXX2 prints with Jimmy D's are still waiting on MAXX2 prints. As soon as I have Bob's file, we will start "production".
Jon, glad to hear you are still up for the challenge. I'm sitting in my first home typing this post remembering the day I came here kicking the tires (thinking I was teaching myself "househunting skills" for the distant future when I thought I'd really be able to hunt)So, as Ted says, you never know where it will lead.
quote: So, again, let's get these Bob and Mike files to both Summa and ND, give us some time, and we'll print them.
Once the files are rec'd, Jon or I will post here---samples can be requested.
Forget Mike's file. Why muddy the waters beating a dead horse. A file has been agreed upon by 2 or 3 different representatives of digital print/cut technology. Summa already recieved the file in question & has sent copies around the continent. I'd say the ball's in Gerbers court. And since this has been delayed anyway, how about you Howard? lets see what Graphtec can do here as well!
On March 7th Bob wrote:
quote: CD's are burned, they have .tiff, .psd, and for Jon I even have the .plt files. I need to get some padded envelopes tonight at Staples and they will be in tomorrows mail.
It seems Jim got his CD. Hopefully ND will too, & we will soon be invited to provide our address's & see the results of the competition. At that time it would be great to have actual material costs & production times compared as well.
Hey, where's Roland?
Posted by Jon Aston (Member # 1725) on :
Aloha Doug.
I kick alot of tires myself.
Jimmy D has the advantage of having an FTP site, so he didn't have to wait for the CD.
I'm not ready to forget Mike's file...because that is what Mike wants to see.
Posted by Bob Rochon (Member # 30) on :
I am writing from my bunker in Iraq, the bombing has been heavy and internet goes down on a moments notice............
Nahhh I'm just a procrastinating unorganized but head who needs his ass kicked hard. Jon my whole hearted appologies.
I tried to e-mail the file this morning before I went to the cape on a job. I had no luck I tried sending the files attached to an e-mail right from the cd, didnt go so I'll be home tomorrow afternoon, and I can use the dsl connection to try again. I will try to copy them to the pc first then send em Jon.
Fedex is not near me anymore but hey thats no excuse, I could have tied them to a snail and had em there by now.
Sorry for being an ass
I cant wait to see the print form the maxx as well.
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, and believe me, it doesn't make you feel too good to crank something out, even if it is the file's fault and not my machine's fault. So, instead of beating on Jim and possibly Jon and I, let's all work together and try and help some of you guys make a good informed decision that's going to allow you to make the right decision for your shop. I know Jon and I want you to be successful so you buy more stuff, and I'm sure Jim does too!