I was wondering if you could spray vinyl with a matte clear to take away some of the high gloss look. I'm making some Corian background signs with tenant's names on them. The names will be changing in the future, so vinyl letters would be the best material to use since they can be peeled off easily. The vinyl has too much of a "plastic" look to it. The color is dark green on a beige background. Any suggestions?
Posted by Jeff Ogden (Member # 3184) on :
Jean...
A flat vinyl would look good...631 Oracal will work ...has a 3 yr. life, but would be fine indoors.I don't know of anybody that has it in small quantities; the one time I wanted to use it(in a museum), the distributor would only sell it in 50yd rolls. Maybe there is someone out there who knows of a place to get smaller rolls? Also I think they say its a removable film.
Posted by goddinfla (Member # 1502) on :
Very careful use of a belt sander will work. Just kidding. Satin clear should work, just do a crinkle test on a scrap piece to make sure there is a bond between paint and vinyl.
Posted by Monte Jumper (Member # 1106) on :
Since you didn't say ...if these are interior spray them with Krylon matte clear.
If they are outside forget it any thing clear you spray on them will flake off.
There is an alternative however...if you spray the vinyl with Centari (color of your choice) with their matte additive (about 20% mix) you can accomplish what you are after. I've never found the sprayed vinyl to have a shortened life.
If you're afraid of this method, simply use a computerized cut mask (or hand cut mask) and spray the centari directly onto the substrate. (it will outlast the vinyl anyway)
Another approach would be to silk screen the copy with an enamel and flattner additive.This would hold up well but remove easily with some lacquer thinner since the thinner won't touch the Corian.
[ January 26, 2003, 09:47 PM: Message edited by: Monte Jumper ]
Posted by Robb Lowe (Member # 2121) on :
I think you guys are thinkin' too hard...
first choice - if it is really short term (i.e. - 2 years) I'd go with the cheapest calendared vinyl I could find, like Bannercal. That stuff is almost semi-gloss naturally.
second choice - use enamel receptive vinyl and paint it with semi-gloss paint of your choice.
third and probably easiest choice - airbrush any ol' vinyl with AutoAir airbrush paint. That crap goes on dull as David Letterman.
Have fun, and post a pic when you're through!
Posted by Del Badry (Member # 114) on :
Dont laugh Dennis,,, repairing some vinyl door sills(the piece between the glass and doors on an older taurus), the oem product was a flat black,, had to do a repair at a bodyshop, of course no flat black.. so we used emery cloth after installing,,
would be a pain for a lettering job unless it was a small area...would suggest you scuff before cutting the letters...
Posted by Steve Burke (Member # 2674) on :
Matthews Paint has a matting clear that you add to their clearcoat that allows you to customize the gloss level....
Posted by cheryl nordby (Member # 1100) on :
Arlon CalPlus vinyl is a matt finish. But it isn't HP.
Posted by Bob Burns (Member # 268) on :
DITTO CHERYL
Posted by Doug Allan (Member # 2247) on :
quote: Another approach would be to silk screen the copy with an enamel and flattner additive.This would hold up well but remove easily with some lacquer thinner since the thinner won't touch the Corian.
Monte beat me to it, but I'll add that I have a similar client that can afford corian door plaques, so they also pay for screenprinted tenant name changes. I charge $145 each time & very few (if any) of my quicky-sticky competition would be set up to take over this work.
Posted by old paint (Member # 549) on :
most intermediate vinyls are matte finish, bannercal, mactac, avery A5.....if its indoors and short term...problems solved..
Posted by Kenneth Sandlin (Member # 3014) on :
As Jeff says, Oracal Series 631 has a very nice opaque matte surface and a 3 year outdoor life, with 2 year residueless removability, which would be good if you will be changing them out.
Posted by mike norcross (Member # 3496) on :
Hi Jean I have always used the spray, thet you use for pencil sketches on my vinyl and all my art work, and it does cut down the shine.At lease it always worked for me anyway
Posted by Stephen Deveau (Member # 1305) on :
Don't Laugh as Del Badry says...
Take your favorite product and give it a wet sanding with emery paper 400-600-800 grid
Not too hard on the surface but just enough to dull the finish.
This should be all done before you cut your letters or Graphics. Be conservative on the water as not to get the backing wet...... We all know what happens!
