A paint question. I'm looking for that really nice metallic gold paint commonly seen on routed signs, I ordered One Shot Metallic but did not come close Please help, have rush job and back is against the corner! Please help me with the type (name of paint) and a supplier if you can. Needed it yesterday thanks for all your help!!!!!
Posted by Ricky Simpson (Member # 1318) on :
Ivan,
I dont know about a gold paint that you seem to be speaking of but.......you can mix some of that metallic gold and imitation gold to get a decent looking gold but no paint will compare to real gold.
OP has mentioned before of a gold paint that he has used that looks nice...maybe he will chime in.
Hope this helps
Posted by Bill Cosharek (Member # 1274) on :
I could be wrong but most of the gold I've seen on routed signs is actually gold leaf & not paint.
Try doing a search for info on surface gilding as that subject has been discussed here quite often in the last few months.
Good luck,
Posted by Ivan D. Otero (Member # 1924) on :
Today I was driving by a main street and all of these routed signs have a real brilliant gold paint. Almost like a gold leaf. I know it's out there it just hasn't found my brush! Thanks for the help!
Posted by Bill Cosharek (Member # 1274) on :
Thought I remembered seeing something in latest SignCraft. Look on page 99 at top. Company called Alsa Corp. at www.alsacorp.com looks like what you might be looking for. Just guessing.
Posted by Ivan D. Otero (Member # 1924) on :
Your right Bill a some of them were gold leaf I checked some out, there were also a couple of them that were paint, the brush strokes were visible on some. Well I have a dark burgundy sign and the customer changed from nice bright beige lettering to gold, but gold leaf is not in his budget. I may have unfortuantely put my foot in my mouth by telling him I could get it nice and bright. We'll see thanks for the reply!
Posted by Curtis hammond (Member # 2170) on :
could the brush strokes you saw, actually be the brush strokes from applying the size?
Posted by Bruce Bowers (Member # 892) on :
Ivan,
When you compare the price of gold leaf to the price of paint, there really isn't a whole lot of difference. The cost comes from the additional labor and percieved value.
There is no paint that I know of that comes anywhere near the brilliance of gold leaf. This isn't to say that there isn't one but I have no knowledge of it. Neither has any of the sign professionals I have spoken to. I believe that you were looking at gold and, as Curtis mentioned, in all probility, saw the brushstrokes of size. Not that you should see the strokes in the size, you shouldn't see them in paint, either.
If you really want to cheap out, you could use bronze powder and then clear coat. The problem here is the P.I.A. factor of bronze powder and the necessary clear coat that you need. If you use bronze powder, make sure to wear a mask as the powder is not real good for your health. It also doesn't hold up all that great outdoors.
In all reality here, you should have sold him on the gold. Now you have yourself in a jam. Hey, live and learn.
Have a great one!
Posted by John Deaton III (Member # 925) on :
Ronan has acrylic based paints that are great looking. I have a friend who uses them quite often on hdu signs. They look great. Here's the link. Ronan Metallics Posted by Cam Bortz (Member # 55) on :
You won't like this answer, but here goes. You're not going to get a gold paint that looks like leaf. Period. So here's what you CAN do, to keep yourself out of this predicament: Make a small sample panel with a black background (you could use any dark color, but black is neutral). On it do three lines that say: GOLD LEAF (in 23k gold), GOLD PAINT (in 1-shot metallic or any other you like better) and the last IVORY, in 1-shot ivory. Make it small and portable to take out to customers. Show them the obvious visual difference - you can describe til you are blue, but they won't get it til they see it. Make it clear that in "your professional opinion" if the budget doesn't include real gold, they should go to ivory rather than an imitation. "Fake" gold metallics, whether in paint, vinyl or other forms, is one of the worst things you can do to a sign; it looks tacky and just screams CHEAP! far worse than than using an ivory or an off-white.
Posted by Jeff Ogden (Member # 3184) on :
One shot metallic brass looks real good, better than metallic gold. But if you want no brush srokes showing put on fast size, then dust on pale gold bronze powder when at a light tack.Bronze does need to be clear coated, but its main drawback is getting into backgrounds, etc. a light dusting of talcum powder prior to sizing is helpful.I agree though that gold leaf is the best way to go. I'm sure all this has been discussed on the bullboard before, but I'm new around here.
Posted by Chuck Peterson (Member # 70) on :
I like Cam's answer. Also keep in mind metallic gold paint will darken over time and really look bad in a couple of years.
