does anybody use either Summacut 24"D60 or Summasign pro D750 for working with reflective materials and if so how good are they my cutters are getting past it and will not cut reflective properly and we are looking for a new machine thanks in advance for any information
Posted by Rick Chavez (Member # 2146) on :
The vehicle graphics company I worked for about 6 years ago used a 48" Summa with a tangential head, and it cut reflective great! The new ones have to be an improvement. I use to cut reflective everyday with it, I highly reccomend the T head cutter cutter. By the I own a Roland PNC-960 and a Graphtec 4100, the Graphtec is good too, but if I was cutting heavy stuff all the time I would have bought the Summa. Good Luck with your choice Rick
Posted by Todd Gill (Member # 2569) on :
Ian,
I own the Summa D750. A great cutter and will do what you need with reflectives and sandblast material. It has two servo motors instead of the single one that the D60 has. I had to return 2 Summa D60's because I kept getting "Error on X axis" errors which would stop the job dead in it's tracks....the Summa D750 hasn't given me a lick of trouble...it's heavy duty and can cut a lot faster than you would ever want...it's almost scary.
The control panel must have been designed by someone from another country or a high school art student...it's very confusing .... all obscure goofy symbols instead of words....other than that, I like it. You can get used to the panel, and as I understand it...they are supposedly looking at changing the panel design?
Maybe Jim Doggett of Summa will read this and correct me. I think if you do a ton of reflective, i'd go with the pro 750...it'll do the job and then some. Good luck.
P.S. Even though I initially went through some D60 problems before I got the Pro 750....I have nothing but GOOD to say about their customer support. They are very good about responding, getting you answers and keeping you satisfied. I've heard horror stories about some of the other brands like Vinyl Xpress.
I owned a Roland which was a decent machine...but the few times I needed some technical assistance...it took a couple days and it was always a foreign guy with very poor English...difficult to understand.
Hope this helps.
Posted by Howard Keiper (Member # 1250) on :
Ian...
If rreflective is your hot button, the Graphtec 5100 is the champ...period.
This machine routinely cuts 1/8" in normal reflective, to 1/2" in Diamond-grade.
Maybe some other can too, I have neither seen nor heard of any other.
hk
Posted by Bernice Tornquist (Member # 16) on :
Hi Ian:
My 24" Summa D610 has never given me any trouble with reflectives or stoping dead in it's tracks...got mine in 1994. It's been a good machine.
Posted by Todd Gill (Member # 2569) on :
Just to clarify...the D60 stopped dead in it's tracks with the "Error on X axis"....NOT the D610.
I would also look at the Graphtec 5100 as Howard suggests...and compare control panels for ease of use. How's about that Howard?
1/8th inch cuts??? I'd have to see that weeding demo. Hehehe.
Posted by Ian Wilson (Member # 177) on :
Have a problem with Graphtec here at the present moment as the company that imports them has gone to the wall I would like to have a look at one but nobody has one at the present moment I presume that somebody will get the agency but when I don't know thanks for all the information
Posted by Marty Happy (Member # 302) on :
My D620 has cut reflective on occasion without a problem even with the regular vinyl blade. As a whole the cutter has performed excellent. The only problem I've ever had was when the original Windows drivers inexplicably corrupted on my computer and the original floppies weren't useable. That was when I learned floppies have a limited life. The help desk insisted on sellingl me Co-cut or something like that until I complained to Jim and I eventually got the original drivers which work great as far as I'm concerned. I cut directly from Corel and I have never seen a reason why I would need a special cutting program and I've done some pretty elaborate multi-coloured overlays/interlays.
Posted by Mike Kelly (Member # 2037) on :
I have cut a ton of reflective material with my D60 and have NEVER had a problem. I'm sure that there are plenty more folks out there that have, too. Not only that, but I'm still cutting with my original blade(2.5 years!) I love my Summa!
Posted by Kenneth Sandlin (Member # 3014) on :
We were looking for a new cutter and I decided to get a Graphtec 5100. I love it.
I saw the demo at the trade shows of the 1/8" reflective letters and the easy to use control panel as well as having 8 different material presets. It's got more functions and capabilities than I have figured out how to use but I love it so far and their customer service has been great no matter who I talk to.
This is not a company endorsement, just my recent personal experience.
Posted by Howard Keiper (Member # 1250) on :
Hi, Todd...
Ahem...ahem.... See above post.. hk
Glad you like your cutter , Ken. Please give me a call if I can give you any tips or hints. BTW, do you know where the PAUSE button is? hk
Posted by Todd Gill (Member # 2569) on :
hahaha....you got me Howard! Honestly, if I hadn't gotten the deal I did on the D750 because of the D60 problems...I probably would have ended up with one of yours.
The Summ 750 is a great machine...but all things being equal...the control panel of the Graphtec alone would have sent me to your product.
I'm happy for the competitive spirit between you and Summa.....it makes everyone's product better. Have a good one.
Posted by Todd Gill (Member # 2569) on :
Oh, and by the way, I finally figured out where/how the pause button is. Now all I have to do is stick a piece of tape with the word "pause" on it next to this goofy little picture of a hand on the Summa control panel.
I mean, really....what's the hand supposed to mean? Stop, halt, pause, yield, or if you press it, does the machine do a palm reading or give advice on your love life....or what? It's like trying to decipher old Caveman drawings or Heiroglyphics. So, you have a good point there Howard.
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Honestly, if I hadn't gotten the deal I did on the D750 because of the D60 problems...I probably would have ended up with one of yours.