Help! I was asked to paint a logo on the ice of a hockey rink. Approx. 10 feet in diameter, four colours. Never done it before. What paint works best? Any tips you may have are more than welcome.
Posted by David Wright (Member # 111) on :
Dennis Goddard has done the Tampa Bay Lightning logos. If he doesn't see this contact him directly. Look up under "find a Letterhead".
Posted by goddinfla (Member # 1502) on :
Hi Lotti, been doing ice painting for about nine years now. Send me an email and I will answer any questions you have. xsigngodd@aol.com
Posted by Steve Shortreed (Member # 436) on :
Tell us all Dennis. I've always thought that a colored paper is actually frozen into the ice surface. What's the trick to painting ice?
Posted by Bob Rochon (Member # 30) on :
Dennis,
I was watching this thread as well. I have always wondered how they got that paint under the ice. Just this past weekend my son & I were at a game and my curiosity peeked again.
Come on spill the beans.
Posted by Mark Fuller (Member # 2128) on :
Hi Lotti
I also have been painting on ice for 11 years, and it"s easy.
Use natural hair brushes (2.5"-5") and Proper Ice Paint.
A company called White Ice is in Alberta and has ice paint. First seal in pounce chalk with a "fine" spray of water(then you can walk on it) Second, do light colours first, then dark or outlines. Finish with light mist of paint to seal(this is important as the Zamboni uses warm water and will smear your paint job!)
Work fast and inside to outside.
Mark
Posted by Mark Fuller (Member # 2128) on :
Hi Steve
Most rinks use ice paint as it's safer and shows up better. The composition of the ink on paper changes the "thermal capacity" of the ice.
Smaller rinks and curling rinks use paper, mostly cause its cheaper, both in cost and labour. The Blue and Redlines are sometimes "crate paper".
You can buy curling lines and circles ready to go!
Vancouver uses Paper patterns and it looks very bad. You would not want Super Mario to trip and hurt himself due to bubbles in ice. Mark
Posted by goddinfla (Member # 1502) on :
We use paint from Jet-Ice, it's a Canadian company of course. Their website is jetice.com I believe. First the rink crew cools the floor to 14 degrees and sprays layers of water until there's about a half inch of ice. Then the entire rink is sprayed white. Next they seal the white with a thin layer of ice so it can be walked on without messing up the white. The patterns are then positioned and pounced. A neat trick is that you can't tape the patterns to the ice so what you do is lick your finger and get the paper wet and hold it to the ice until it freezes. Holds real well. To unstick just hold your thumb on the spot till it releases. DO NOT put your fingers knees or anything metal, like a tape measure on the ice, it will melt down to the concrete. Once the patterns are pounced we kneel on pieces of insulation foam (not the white crumbly stuff) and paint with the Jet-Ice paint. It's waterbased and is basically like a clay suspended in the water, so stirring is needed. ALWAYS have your paint container in a box, splashes are next to impossible to clean up. You can use regular house painting type brushes or good quality foam brushes. After the logos and lines are finished they spray a light mist of water to seal before spraying more layers on, about another half inch.
Posted by Suelynn Sedor (Member # 442) on :
Hi Lotti,
Welcome to the BB. I was excited to see another signgal from Saskatchewan posting!
Posted by Lotti Prokott (Member # 2684) on :
Thanks to all of you for the interest. Dennis and Mark, you have told me everything I needed to know. I feel confident enough now to go ahead with this job. Glad you included the little "tape it to the ice" trick, Dennis. I've already envisioned myself recruiting four victims for the job of standing on the corners... Mark, maybe Dennis has answered the question I've had about sealing the finished painting. I truly appreciate your willingness to share and thank you again! SUELYNN!! The exitement is mutual.Wow,I thought I am all alone out here. You've got my e-mail adress? Feel free to use it, please. I've heard that it's never too late....
Posted by goddinfla (Member # 1502) on :
Speaking of the standing on the corners, one of the customer supplied patterns was made of Tyvek. The Tyvek would not absorb the spit and freeze to the ice so we had to put cans of paint on the corners to hold it in place. Also be careful with your chalk when you pounce and especially when you pick up the pattern. Spilled chalk is a pain to scrape up. Measure your placement several times. A pounced pattern in the wrong place is a pain to scrape up, even worse after you've started painting. Been there, done that.
Posted by Lotti Prokott (Member # 2684) on :
Thanks, I'll be careful.The job will come up at the end of February, if I can get a picture I will post it. Jetice actually doesn't only sell paint but also holds seminars in different locations, that might be interesting to some of you. By the way, those guys are located in.....Regina, Saskatchewan!
Help! I was asked to paint a logo on the ice of a hockey rink. Approx. 10 feet in diameter, four colours. Never done it before.