I have a "Potential" Customer that wants me to paint over his awning and re letter. The material is stretched over a framework and backlighted..it is translucent... Can I paint over an area that is backlit with a color that is opaque,and then re letter ? It will have to be hand lettered.. My question is ...what do I use for a "Barrier" coat between the substrate and the final lettering ? I need Brand names if possible,,,,,,I will probably use One Shot for the lettering.
Posted by Si Allen (Member # 420) on :
What is the translucent awning material? That will pretty much dictate what you can use to paint over it....then 1Shot will be OK!
Posted by timi NC (Member # 576) on :
Shep,..if the awning is lettered by eradication,...that is the awning is coated with a tranlucent ink then it appears as tho the area with the copy is white(or possibly covered with translucent vinyl)or the color of the material then lit from behind there are several ways to approach this. One would be to eraditcate a panel area then do the new copy in that area with vinyl ink or translucent vinyl.This way it would remain possible to back light it at night.
If there is translucent vinyl copy over the existing copy area or copy you will need to remove that then eradicate that area so as to add new art.This too will make it remain possible to back light the ad at night.
If the customer doesn't want to light the awning at night you can always use an opaque vinyl panel then letter over that with vinyl ink,...and or tie-coat & one shot. This will more than likely be opaque & impossible to read at night unless lit from an external light source.
If you need more info on specific brands concerning eradication fluid give me a call & I can give you more details,....
Posted by Arvil Shep' Shepherd (Member # 2030) on :
The lettering appears to have been SEWN into the background....both are transparent. The material is a smooth substance. Appears to be some type of Vinyl. It is OK with the customer if the area where I am to change is OPAQUE !!! I am somewhat familiar with the "Eradication" method,,,,,but since the existing copy is "Sewn in "this tends to eliminate that process....
Posted by timi NC (Member # 576) on :
That being the case I would use chromatic tie-coat or one shot vinyl primer & as Si said one shot will work fine,...
Posted by Arvil Shep' Shepherd (Member # 2030) on :
Thanks Timi. check your e mail... Posted by Tom Giampia (Member # 2007) on :
One other thing to watch for... Some vinyl awning fabrics are treated with a coating I think it's called "Tevlar?"... anyway it's a coating that's meant to prevent vandalizism and it would be very difficult to get anything to stick for very long, especially when the tempertature changes. If I were taking this job, I'd either want to be sure what the material is, or make no guarantee. It sounds like the type of job that might come back to haunt you. Just my 2 cents. Good Luck!
Posted by PKing (Member # 337) on :
I have always used Ronan "Prime All" to create a PANEL and or change entire color of vinyl awnings to except enamels. hope this helps
Posted by Carl Wood (Member # 1223) on :
I just did a job like this - -I rolled on with a foam roller a good, thick coat of dark green one-shot, let it dry for a 'coupla days, applied white vinyl graphics; turned out great - alas, customer already has a new idea in mind - -candy-striped in red & white - -oh well, another check for me. . . . .Carl
p.s. just make sure you have some extensions for your paint rollers....to reach top of awning
