anybody here use Rich Art paint for windows? (i know a bunch of people who DONT use it... i'm just curious to know who DOES use it.) My local supplier, PSS, doesn't carry it any more, but i always see the ads, so i figure somebody's got to use it. i was thinking of doing some quickie Xmas windows and i want something that can be removed easily.
Posted by Rob Larkham (Member # 2105) on :
Yes Scooter I do use it. I don't like it though. It's like painting with mud. I may be changing to Day-Glo brand for my window splashes. I have asked around and many say it is a better paint. I'm not the best window guy but that paint doesn't make it any easier.
Posted by Si Allen (Member # 420) on :
I don't like it either...like painting with peanut butter. DayGlo werks just fine for me! If you need the added water resistance...give it a coat of clear!
Posted by Rich Stebbing (Member # 368) on :
Hey Scooter I use it often,...as it is my preffered paint at this time. Some of the colors are great, others not. I use because of the "rainproof" aspect and the way it cleans off. It is pricey, but you can reduce it more than most of those cheaper brands. It seems to flow off of my brushes just fine.I order it from Dick Blick Co.
Posted by AdrienneMorgan (Member # 1046) on :
Scooter, I got a bunch of pails of that stuff you are welcome to it if you wanna come here to get it.
Opened one today, it's so seperated it wasn't worth the effort to remix it.
I also wasn't impressed with the color...and like Rich says it's pricey.
You want to paint windows for a small amount of money, use latex paints.House paint for base, acrylic for colors. I use a mixture of several kinds.
December issue of Sign Builder will have more info.
Dayglo isn't available locally for us but Radient is.(PSS) I also prefer it over Dayglo.
For waterproofing spray finished job with clear enamel.
have fun! A
Posted by Rick Sacks (Member # 379) on :
Do these other brands work as well for sho-cards and paper banners, or are they just for window splashers?
Posted by Brian Cornwell (Member # 2509) on :
I was wondering . . . after all the paint and then clear applied over that . . . who is responsible for removing these "temporary" storefront promotions anyway?
Many years ago I never gave it much thought as to the "permanence" because the promotion wasn't going to run more than one or two weeks. I suppose if you're all doing Christmas window dressings the paint has to last a month or more.
Are you painting the inside or the outside of the windows?
And who is responsible for the removal/cleanup after the promotion is over?
The reason for this thought is that if some of you are spraying clear on top of the temp drawings then the store owner will be cursing having to scrape the multilevels of the job.
Yes? No?
Posted by AdrienneMorgan (Member # 1046) on :
It's no big deal removing the enamal sprayed windows.
I paint on the outside, only a few get sprayed with clear.
Removal is easy and not at all messy.
I dampen the painted area with water(from a spray bottle), let soak in a few minutes (3-4) then scrape off with a wide blade wallpaper scraper.
It comes off in rubbery sheets, and gets dropped in a pail.
Squeegee and wipe the sill with a paper towel, and that's it.
Rich art has to be removed with ammonia (pee-uu!) and scrubbed off...a messy and smelly job. You will need rubber gloves, sponges and lots of towels....
No thanks!
A
Posted by Preston McCall (Member # 351) on :
I use exterior latex base with One Shot Fluoro. It always works and is fast to the finish line. If below 25 degrees, I might use poster white as a base, but only if I am so inclined to work on such a horrid day. Removal? They call one of the cleaners and the windows get the stripper/glass cleaner treatment for roughly $5-10 per panel. It is a rare day that I clean windows. Ever call a plumber to plunger out a stopped up stool? Ever call an electrician to change a light bulb? Do you take your car to a mechanic when it needs washed? Window paints are the same deal.
Posted by timi NC (Member # 576) on :
I have to agree with Preston,...I did alot of windows during the early 90's & the rich art window paint wasn't all that good compared to a coat of flat wite latex base & a topcoat of oil based flourescent paint. The time it took to cover with rich art compared to the one shot flourescents was no where near cost effective cosidering the extra labor involved with rich art. As for cleanup it's actually easier with the one shot,despite all the "washes off with amonia" ad campaign of rich art.I used basically the same method as Adrienne with little or no problems.
Posted by AdrienneMorgan (Member # 1046) on :
Posted by ScooterX (Member # 2023) on :
thanks again folks - i love the diversity of approaches and solutions you can get on this board.
i've got white house paint, some tempera, some 1-shot flourescents, and i've ordered up RichArts $9.99 sample pack, so i'll try them all and find out what works for me.
i'm going to go out and do some practice work on vacant storefronts... guerrilla sign painting. (i'm too chicken to ask for money until i know if i do something satisfactory or not... plus, there are a lot of empty windows that could use some holiday cheer in my neighborhood. best of all... i don't have to clean up unless i get caught).
Posted by Rob Larkham (Member # 2105) on :
I like the guerilla sign approach!
Posted by AdrienneMorgan (Member # 1046) on :
Scooter, you are still welcome to come over and paint with me...I still have a lot of Christmas windows to go before I'm done..... Call me!!
