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Posted by Glenn Taylor (Member # 162) on :
 
First, I to say thank you. I've received several e-mails and a couple phone calls wondering where I've been and offering encouragement as I work my way out of this burn-out that I've been in. I really appreciate all of you more than you know.

I had decided to just take some time out and walk away from nearly everything I had been involved or had been participating in. For the last few months, I've been forced to make some hard decisions concerning the business. They are the kinds of decisions I hope no one ever has to face. They can really tear a person up inside. My trip to Myrtle Beach was kinda the "straw that broke the camel's back" so to speak.

Anyhow, things are starting to work their way through and I'm starting to get that sense of accomplishment back. Its been slow in coming, but I'm getting there.

Secondly, I want to say something about Peachtree City Foamcraft. In my other post, I said that many of my former clients (i.e. - developers) were farming work out to places like PCF and that it appeared that PCF was charging the same price to them as they would to any sign shop. Well, when I got home from work earlier today, I saw that my Jim had responded to my other post. So I decided to call Jim. It turns out that they had tried to reach me earlier today at my shop, but I never got the message. Anyhow, Jim and Ken explained that they never knowingly sell directly to someone who is not in the sign biz, and that they take steps to ensure that. After talking with them, I believe them.

Also, I learned that there are other manufacturers who produce the same or similar types of signs as PCF (although not as good as PCF according to Jim and Ken ). It is possible that some of the other developers that I used to do work for are using them {one of which is located in Myrtle Beach interestingly enough).

Here's what had happened at my meeting with "the client." He called and set up a meeting with him and his office. When I arrived, there was another person there. I've never met him before. During the course of the meeting, this other person pulled out a PCF brochure and a PCF price list. He said that he could get "one of these signs from them at wholesale." He also had a 21st Century Signs brochure with him also. Well, you could imagine what was going through my mind.

As I spoke with Jim at PCF on the phone, he was kind enough to look through his database to see if I possibly recognized any names that might be involved. Jim wanted to make sure that he had been dealing with a legitimate sign shop and not some phony front. The only thing that rang a bell with me was the name of a project that was next door to the one that I had been called on to by this "client". It turns out that the project had been done through a franchise shop in a nearby town. Whether this "other person, a developer, was lying at the meeting or if he has some special relationship with this franchise, I simply don't know. My gut feeling is that this "other person" was talking a lot of BS either way. I'm doing some other work for this client right now and I intend to discuss this matter with him at our next meeting. I'm also going to talk with a couple other developers that I used to do signs for and find out their story as well and see if there is any connection with what I've been seeing.

Also, I learned from both Jim and Ken that some other "wholesalers" have borrowed PCF designs and photos of work done by PCF and are or have been using them to advertise their own brand. In short, passing some of PCF's work off as their own.

Anyway, I'm glad I had a chance to talk to Jim and Ken today. They made me feel much better about the situation and I appreciate it. They are a couple of really nice guys who take a lot of pride in their work.

(Now if we can just get them to advertise here )
 


Posted by Arvil Shep' Shepherd (Member # 2030) on :
 
Glenn,
Glad to see you are alive and well.......Welcome back.we have missed you !!!!!!

Shep'
 


Posted by Stephen Deveau (Member # 1305) on :
 
Glenn
I would have walked away from this meeting
and asked for a (One on One) only!

Looks like your customer is asking to shot fish in a Barrel.

If you both have the same product as substrate,
then the best "Design and Finish" sould win!
Never to be shown to the other guy.

Price does matter but Quality product does as well!

Best of Luck!
If it doesn't pan out then Walk Away to the Next One.

 


Posted by Mark Smith (Member # 298) on :
 
Glenn,

That sounds like a nasty business.

I'm glad you're back!
 


Posted by VICTORGEORGIOU (Member # 474) on :
 
Welcome back Glenn!
 
Posted by old paint (Member # 549) on :
 
glenn i know some good drugs i can get ya....hehehehe did most of myself....and they really really work....hehehehehehehe
 
Posted by Mark Fair Signs (Member # 289) on :
 
"absence makes the heart grow fonder."

hahahahahahahaha
 


Posted by Myra Grozinger (Member # 327) on :
 
Hi Glenn: Sure was getting nervous about what might be up, but I had carefully read your post about burnout and figured some re-loading/assessing/re-building was going on.

I believe one can only be "giving" and "helpful" they way you consistently are - if you are not "empty".

Sounds like you are back, in the thick of it, and that you've got a plan to take care of things.

Yeah!!
 


Posted by Jeffrey Vrstal (Member # 2271) on :
 
Good to see you back, Glenn!
 
Posted by pierre (Member # 1462) on :
 
GlenndoLYN! The board nearly fell into illiteracy wifout youse!!
 
Posted by cheryl nordby (Member # 1100) on :
 
Glenn honey! You were missed. Glad to see you back. And don't let things bug you. I had a 'meeting' with a realtor not too long ago...and she had another sign guy show up for the same meeting time as me. She wanted to play the little game of 'who will do it the cheapest and fastest' I shook hands with the other sign person, and wished him luck with the realtor 'lady'. Geez people can be strange.
 
Posted by pierre (Member # 1462) on :
 
You're a classy lady, Cheryl.
 
Posted by Joey Madden (Member # 1192) on :
 
Glenn, does this mean the longer you stay away the longer your posts will be when you come back?
 
Posted by Diane Crowther (Member # 120) on :
 
Welcome back Glenn.

I didn't respond to your previous post on what to do when you're feeling burnt out because I'm feeling that way myself and couldn't muster up much in the way of encouragement at the time. You've had so much to contend with in your business, and yet have offered so much of yourself and your experiences to all of us through various forums, that I'm not surprised you needed a breather!

I'm glad to hear the spirit is returning. Make sure you take plenty of time for yourself and the things you love to do that are not sign/business related! Being in business is not always fun...but then, neither is anything else however good it may be. Frustrating days, worrysome nights, yet there are those good days when everything ticks and you love it! I hope you have those days again soon.
 




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