GO FOR IT,DAVE! (just be sure you bring your own Vasoline!)
Guy - Hi, how much for a sign?
Me - It depends on what you want
Guy - well its only a little one so it shouldn't be very expensive
Me (Jokingly) - Ever bought a small computer or a small mobile phone? Was it cheap?
Guy (Not fazed) - Its the sign on the corner... the last guy did it for $X bargain price (I know the site/sign etc - no way)
Me - Am I pricing against him?
Guy - No, we had a falling out and I won't use him again.
Me - I'll be passing there thisafternoon, I'll check it out and get a price to you late today.
Guy - I wanted to have the sign up tomorrow, can you manage that?
Me - Probably not but I'll have it done and installed as fast as possible once you OK the price from your rough layout.
Guy - You know I own the shopping centre? I'll give you plenty more work if you give me the right price on this one.
Me - I'll have a price back to you thisafternoon.
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Did he miss any of the more insidious lines in the book of "Tradesmans Most Hated Phrases"?
Note: he will be getting the same price anyone else gets until proven as a good customer or otherwise.
David
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David Fisher
D.A. & P.M. Fisher Services
Brisbane Australia
da_pmf@yahoo.com
[This message has been edited by David Fisher (edited August 06, 2001).]
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"A wise man once said that, or was it a wise guy?"
Ken McTague
The Witch city
Salem, MA
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Artworks
Olympia WA
GO FOR IT,DAVE! (just be sure you bring your own Vasoline!)
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Si Allen #562
La Mirada, CA. USA
(714) 521-4810
ICQ # 330407
"SignPainters do It with Longer Strokes!"
95% of all accidents occur immediately after the words "Hey...watch this."
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[This message has been edited by Si Allen (edited August 06, 2001).]
Here is the RED FLAG that pops up: quote:
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"Guy - You know I own the shopping centre? I'll give you plenty more work if you give me the right price on this one.
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1. How does he know the "right price"?
2. Deals on discounts are made because the "guy" is a good customer and has already had you do all his work and not because of promised "future work"
3. Immediate service is worth extra bucks, not less bucks. Why would anyone put a hold on regular good paying jobs to throw a quick one in the way for LESS money!
What an idiot!
This is a rip off in the making. This jerk is a cold faced liar that can't even discern that everyone knows he is lying!
Let your competition have this job!
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Draper The Signmaker
Bloomington Illinois USA
Get To A Letterhead
Meet This Summer! See
you there!
309-828-7110
drapersigns@hotmail.com
Draper_Dave on mIRC chat
100 percent (I don't know what the metric is in percents) cash upfront!
-Elli
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Uh-huh.. yeah "falling out" meaning "he didnt give me any deals".....
When a potential customer talks negatively about another shop to me, I tell them I just dont want their business ("I dont want your business" or "I'm too busy to take anything else on right now".) If they'll talk about that other shop they'll talk about yours too.
Hey if he's got all this other work that needs to be done, make him show ya what "all this other work" is exactly.. if he needs it he may as well get a quote on it too.
"I'll throw all kinds of work your way if I can get a deal" - "Yeah, and I'm gonna throw bricks through your windows if you dont send the work over."
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Mike Pipes
Digital Illusion Custom Graphics
Lake Havasu City, AZ
http://www.stickerpimp.com
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Drane Signs
Sunshine Coast
Nambour, Qld.
dranesig@dingoblue.net.au
Downunder
"Choose a job you love, and you will never have to work a day in your life" - Confucius
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John Deaton III
Deaton Design
109 N. Cumberland Ave.,Harlan, Ky. 40831 606-573-9101
john@deatondesigns.com
www.deatondesigns.com
"Don't tailgate, or I'll flick a booger on your windshield."-Larry Richmond, 11th grade english class.
I have a customer like this. I'm in the process of writing up a "new policy" letter for all customers that states when I receive the approval for the work, I will give you a time frame of when it will be done. Anything that must be done sooner than the completion date I give you or anything required within 1 week of job approval may be subject to a rush charge equal to job price. (this one customer may be the only one to actually receive my "to all customers" letter. )
Just be careful if you do this job. Don't let yourself get burnt.
If possible, try to find out who the "other" sign guy was and see if you can snoop to fing out the true meaning of "falling out"
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Chris King
Paper Works & Graphix
Indiana, PA
He gave up and settled at nearly $100.00 over the original price and delivery 2 days later than originally planned.
Just goes to show that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.
Then again, the cheque aint in the bank yet.
David
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David Fisher
D.A. & P.M. Fisher Services
Brisbane Australia
da_pmf@yahoo.com
Woman calls about T-shirts for her school. 60 for the teachers, 500 for the kids. Great I think. She is kinda sweet on me, so she tells me what everyone else is bidding... low ball so far is $4.55. My price is $3.84. I send in a bid of $4.19, figuring even if someone lowballs again, they'll go for the round figure of $4.25, right?
They call and say, you win the bid @ 4.19. THEN they proceed to tell me they need the first 60 in 3 days, and will give me the 500 shirt order sizes on the 9th, BUT they HAVE To have them by the 14th. Hmm... I figure this might be a good down the road customer, and its a very good order in its own right, so I say sure.. I'm superman, I can handle it! I head over to pick up the mandatory 50% check and artwork....
Well dontcha know her boss is sweet on the guy at $4.55? Calls him and tells him what I bid, and then he lowers his bid.
I get there and am met with the "oh, we decided to change the artwork. I tried to call you before you left. We'll call you and let you know when you can pick it up, k? See ya later".
I went out to the truck, smelling a rat.
I decided I'd make them fess up. I went back in.
"Uhh, say... how about I go ahead and get that deposit, then you can fax me over the artwork!"
"Uhh, no. we cant do that right now"
I get a fax that afternoon, 'thanks for your bid, but we went somewhere else'
Pissed? oh yeah. But, I calmed down and told myself that since it was a rush job, it HAD to be marked up, and they were never going for that anyway.. so why kill yourself over troublesome work?
So I wont buy that new digital camera this month, big deal. I wont need to see the chiropractor or sit in the hot tub for 5 hours either.
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Robb Lowe
Hub City Graphics
Spartanburg, SC
Bend * Over * Here * It * Comes * Again!
A
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Adrienne Morgan
Splash Signs
"Wherever you go...there you are!"
www.splashsigns.com
"Rainkatt'on chat
Benicia, CA
707-550-4553
heyu@splashsigns.com
>> Duh <<
If they would just get together they could BOTH make a living...
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"If it isn't fun, why do it?"
Signmike@aol.com
Mike Languein
Doctor of Letters
BS, MS, PhD
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You know what BS is, MS is More of the Same, and it's Piled Higher and Deeper here
Oh, he did miss one of my pet ugly phrases..."This is a highly visible location - if I let you put work up here it will get you a lot of exposure, so the price should be really low".
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Joe Rees
Cape Craft Signs
(Cape Cod, MA)
http://www.capecraft.com
e-mail: joerees@capecraft.com
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Girls carve too!
Behind every good Woman, there's a man.............waiting.
http://www.stmariegraphics.com
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