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Posted by Dave Grundy (Member # 103) on :
 
Just got an e-mail from a previous customer asking if I could add registration numbers and a name to his inflatable Zodiac dingy. I have done literally hundreds of sailboats but have never been asked to work on one of these inflatables.

Does anyone have any comments or experiences regarding applying vinyl to one of these things?

I WOULD be using 2 mil cast, and of course would be cleaning it properly.

I am concerned about how the actual sufrace will accept vinyl and whether inflating/deflating will affect durability.

Thanks in advance.

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Posted by Jerry Mathel (Member # 526) on :
 
Hi Dave,

You are correct that inflating and deflating, and the resulting expansion and contraction of the material would cause problems with vinyl. You would be better off using a paint mask and vinyl silk screen ink, assuming the boat is vinyl. If it is Hypalon, like is used on Zodiacs, you would want to use a rubberized ink like is used on football jerseys.

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Jerry Mathel
Jerry Mathel Signs
Grants Pass, Oregon
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Posted by Dave Draper (Member # 102) on :
 
Dave,

Registration numbers are only 3 inches high, right? Same in Canada like the states?

The material is sort of like banner material.
I think in this case the vinyl would stick if the customer is careful how they pack it up.

And you can always cut him a spare set just in case.

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Posted by Bill Modzel (Member # 22) on :
 
Dave,
I've been using Gerber instachange to cut masks for a local marina this year. They have been painting the numbers with vinyl spray paint for repainting vinyl auto tops. So far, 3 months now, everything has been fine. I wouldn't trust anything with adhesive to stay on these because of the plasticer migration.

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Bill Modzel
Mod-Zel screen Printing
Traverse city, MI
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Posted by Alan Dearborn (Member # 1461) on :
 
I lettered my brother's Zodiac at least 4 years ago and it's weathered the Maine weather and waves fine since then. We just made sure the surface was very clean and applied the HP vinyl as normal.
He never actually deflates it though, so I can't speak to that issue.

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Alan Dearborn
Dearborn Graphics
Rye, NH USA
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Posted by roger bailey (Member # 556) on :
 
We have dealt with a couple major manuf. of these types of boats(rafts etc.)

The "plasticiser migration" is really not a big issue, the real issue is "cleaning" and choise of quality "cast" material.

If its good material and applied correctly, it will stay on.

Roger

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Posted by Troy Haas (Member # 472) on :
 
Customer,eh?????

I think Dave is just trying to find a way to get to Mexico cheaper next January!!!!!

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Seriously, I have never tried anything on one of these vessals, but I agree on the folding/inflating/deflating. I think it may work loose, but hey, I've been wrong before and will agian!!!

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Posted by Si Allen (Member # 420) on :
 
What Bill Modzel said!

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Posted by Mike Pipes (Member # 1573) on :
 
If the Zodiac is anything like my mother's AIRE Inflatable Kayak, it has an internal bladder that gets inflated and the exterior surface of the boat doesnt actually expand or contract at all.

The AIRE IK has a very smooth and glossy surface so vinyl sticks exrtemely well..

the only problem is my mother is a whitewater freak so the decals dont hold up so well when dragged over rocks in the wild Colorado River. =)

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Mike Pipes
Digital Illusion Custom Graphics
Lake Havasu City, AZ
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Posted by Don Coplen (Member # 127) on :
 
Mr.Grundy, you may want to look into that new "inflatable vinyl" that's on the market.

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Posted by VICTORGEORGIOU (Member # 474) on :
 
We have done one Zodiac that is never deflated. The premium vinyl has held up for over two years so far. The client says the lettering still looks good.

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Posted by Sonny Franks (Member # 588) on :
 
I've used masking film and Krylon on Zodiacs and never had a problem. Quick, too.

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Sonny Franks
Sign Creations
Atlanta
 



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