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Posted by Felix Marcano (Member # 1833) on :

I thought I'd type this post after understanding that most of you have teenagers & after reading George Perkins' response to the earlier post. I hope no one takes this the wrong way.

You guys think piercings & rap are a problem?Well forget about it & watch out for neon sticks, vicks inhaler thingies & dust masks.

You've heard of raves, no?

I've been to several (Being a part time bartender for the fun of it), & of course, the drugs & junk change along with the music.

Drum & Bass: Ecstasy. Trance: Acid. But the party would be no good if there wasnt anything to mix it with, & i'm sure you're all familiar with the other ingredients.

You see all types of people. from 13 year old girls with a pacifier in their mouth to just about anything you can imagine.

This scares the hell out of me, cause having a 4 year old it makes me wonder what's gonna be out there when he turns my age (25).

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Posted by Corey Wine (Member # 1640) on :

Felix.
I'm 32 now. I went to a rave when I was about 25 and BOY did everyone look at me like I was a NARC. My friend and I was the oldest in there (by 6 or 7 years). What's with the surgical masks?
I agree...who knows what are kids will be into. I have a 6 year old daughter going on 16 as it is and a new born(2 months old).
I am sure whatever they are into when they actually turn 16 will out do the MOHAWK I had when I was that age. Oh no

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Posted by cheryl nordby (Member # 1100) on :

I am not familiar with what they do with the neon sticks, vicks and dust masks. ??? (enlighten me)
I have a 16 year old son (who I caught smoking a hit off his pipe in his room the other day) and a 13 year old daughter (who knows kids her age in rehab already!?)
Yep I have heard of raves and Ecstasy. So far so good on not being involved with those. (I am keeping my fingers crossed)
But I suppose it is similar to pot, speed, LSD, and cocaine in my earlier days. No?

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Posted by Kelli (Member # 248) on :

Cheryl, here's a link that will give you the scoop on Vicks, masks, etc.
http://web.cln.com/archives/charlotte/newsstand/c052700/cover.htm

It's not just the drug scene that's scary. My daughter is in 7th grade and it sickens me to hear what goes on in middle schools these days - oral sex beneath the stairs for example. This is happening in some of the so-called "best" schools. These are just kids! I'll take a pierced nose any day over the loss of innocence that is so rampant in our society.

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Posted by Mike Pipes (Member # 1573) on :

XTC is a party drug that's "like LSD but not as strong and not dangerous at all".. or so the kids think..

I dont know the affects of ecstasy as I've never tried it, but I do know there are stories in the news in Phoenix all the time about kids flippin out on it and dying. They recently put Sammy "The Bull" Gravanno in jail for running one of the largest ecstasy rings in the country.

The masks are for inhalents like nitrous oxide (NOS), otherwise known as laughing gas (same stuff the detist uses). Where do they get it? simple... cans of whipped cream, right off the shelf at the local grocery. NOS is what they use to pressurize the can, and they just hold the can with the tip up and release the gas into their masks. NOS is also one of the by-product gases from internal combustion engines, by the way.

The best thing you can do is educate your kids about this stuff and what it can do to them. Dont rely on school to teach them about it cause the only thing they'll learn there is how to do it, from their friends.

School is not a babysitting service nor a morality training service.

YOU need to teach your kids what's right and wrong, teach them the consequences, be firm but bend a little, and show some trust. Let them make the decisions, and make it hard when they make the wrong ones.

The parents that have a hard time letting go are the ones that have problems with their kids. If yer a control freak, yer kids are gonna be hell.

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Posted by George Perkins (Member # 156) on :

Mike, some excellent advice on teaching your kids. When I became a single parent I gave up all my bad habits to try and set a decent example. I guess it worked as my son has never taken any of them up except for racing and an artistic bent

I'm afraid you are a little mixed up on the nitrous oxide though. Thats carbon monoxide thats the by product of the internal combustion process. Nitrous oxide can be introduced to the induction system to dramaticaly increase horsepower, the racers refer to it as "being on the bottle". I can remember accidently stumbling on to the effects of an upright Redi Whip can when I was about twelve. Quite a rush!
I am suprised that a lot of people are in the dark about a lot of this stuff. "Huffing" , inhaling various propellents from things like whipped cream, Pam, and various common things like glue and gasoline have been going on for a long,long time. Ecstacy has also been around for quite awhile as has the Vicks inhaler trick. Anyone with young kids, pre teens especially, needs to read up on this stuff.

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[This message has been edited by George Perkins (edited July 15, 2001).]

Posted by Donna in BC (Member # 130) on :

Know what I find frightening? I didn't know about all this inhaler stuff, so how could I teach my kid about it?!? Hire a highschool know-it-all-trouble maker type for info?!?

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Posted by Adrienne Pereira (Member # 1046) on :

It IS scary!!! My daughter lives in Seattle and goes to a lot of raves, i think every weekend!! I don't know if she is currently doing XTC or not, I sure hope not, she's a very bright girl with a lot more common sense than her Mom has sometimes.
thanks Felix for the info, I'm going to check it out.
A

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Posted by Mike Pipes (Member # 1573) on :

George,

My advice on raisin kids is based on how I was raised, which is described to the "T" in my previous post.
My dad was/is very controlling or at least tried to be, but when my parents divorced both me and my sister chose to live with mom (the judge gave us the choice, not mom and dad). Dad wasnt ever around anyways, always at work. Mom gave us some freedom and let us learn the consequences for stupid decisions first hand, and now we're both pretty level-headed.. for the most part.. haha..

Now about that exhaust... in a theoretical engine that's tuned properly and has a working catalytic converter, the ONLY products of combustion should be carbon DIoxide (CO2) and water. But since it's not a perfect world, there are other byproducts.

NOS (nitrous oxide: N20) is created solely from the high temps and pressures in the combustion chamber. Let's not forget the air we breathe is 80% nitrogen, so it has to be included in the exhaust somewhere whether in its pure form or combined with something else. Some of the nitrogen will combine with oxygen.

Carbon monoxide (CO) is generated when the hydrocarbons and other additives in the fuel are not completely burned.

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Posted by Randy W. Robarge (Member # 2022) on :

My wife and I are expecting our first child any day now. You folks have given me a lot to think (worry) about.

Parenting sure does sound like a bigger challenge every day. I'm ready for our baby, but not sure if I'm ready for the world around our baby.

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Posted by Rick Sacks (Member # 379) on :

I'm surprised kids are still doing Vick's and they haven't altered the formula. We did that when I was an early teen. We'd take the wick out of the inhaler and cut it in half and stick in in the filling of a twinkie to get it down. Hold it down as long as you can, and eventually it'd come back. Thenwe'd fell sick and call it high and think we're having a good time. It was a step away from sniffing glue in a bag.

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Posted by Rob Larkham (Member # 2105) on :

Ecstacy releases natural saratonin(spelling) which our body produces. This saratonin is what makes us happy and euphoric. The only hitch is our bodies only produce so much of this. The ecstasy helps to prematurely release this sarratonin and when our bodies run out of it we go into severe depression. This stuff, like most of this S..T is fun at the time but usually has a long term affect. Be lucky if your kid smoke a joint once and a while. This other crap could really ruin them. I use to do plenty of extra curricular activity. I have two small children now and don't go near any of it. Just my two cents.

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Posted by Dave Draper (Member # 102) on :

Hi Heads,

We have 5 kids, two still at home in the 12, and 14 year old catagory.

We started home schooling to avoid all these problems. It works, but not totally. Sooner or later they enter the job market, and work with much worse people than they go to school with.

Its a very difficult world we live in these days to raise kids. (sigh)

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Posted by EPatzer (Member # 135) on :

Things change yet they remain the same... When I was a teen, Nitrous was used to blow the heads off of an improperly set up Ford. Vicks was for dweebs with allergies, and paint was used for flames... I have two boys, and one is in elementary school and the other in preschool. Aside from being next to both of them 24/7, nothing is going to stop them from being exposed to this stuff. I just hope that, by example, and love, they don't go there. If they do, I will be there the best I can, and help them through experience... Just remember to love them, tell them that Yes they are special, and Yes I am INTERESTED in ALL that you do...

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Posted by LazyEdna (Member # 266) on :

I have two kids, one 13 and one 21. I worry about them in general because our world is populated by morons who are running the world. Drugs and body piercings only bother me in the way people react to them. As most people are probably aware, I feel that the problems associated with drugs are almost all the result of them being illegal. If anyone is prejudiced against someone for being tattooed or having body piercings, that is their problem, not the tattooed or pierced person's problem.
Kids are not that difficult to raise if you have unconditional love for them and you can be honest. Be honest with yourself first. You know how difficult that is.
LE

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