Painting on Vinyl Awning? The local Subway shop has a vinyl awning, Cooley Brite by Astrup, that has been up for several years. The awning is yellow, the word Sub has been eradicated to white and the word Way is the yellow of the awning. There is an 8 to 10' brown oval background that surrounds the copy. This brown is the only part that needs to be redone. I'm sure it was sprayed but am not sure what it was sprayed with. Oh I should mention that this awning is back-lit so whatever I use should (but does not Absolutely have to) still appear translucent or brown at nite. The awning cannot come down, so I will have to paint it on site, goody for me, it is a very high traffic area. It is gonna take 2 tiers of scaffold and I am a one woman shop, in June in Florida. My questions. Do I try to mask the letters and then try to remove the original brown (please say NO!) Or do I just brush vinyl ink or some kind of paint over the brown and hope nothing horrible happens. I don't feel that spraying is an opption as my compressor is too large and 220 and I don't want to take any chance with the overspray. So what kind of paint or ink. And the best method. And any pricing suggestions would be helpful. I called Astrup and they only have screen printing product suggestions. (Naz-Dar System 2 Series/44000 Series and Ink Dezyne VP Series) Thanks in advance for your help! Vital Signs by Kymi Crystal River, FL
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Posted by Glenn Taylor (Member # 162) on :
Why not just cut some translucent brown vinyl and put it over the original. It shouldn't be too hard. That's how we've handled it in the past.
Take an oversized piece and apply it over the area, turn on the lights and hand-cut what doesn't belong. The only real trick is to use fresh exacto and no pressure. You don't want to accidentally cut through the fabric.
I agree with the vinyl choice, better finish and no brush strokes, and you'll have brush strokes for sure when it lights up if hand lettered.
Dont make this job the one you'll have to buy a new awning for. You might have the customer sign a contract stating not responsible for brush strokes and or oppacity. Most likely the customer will be willing to pay for some type of upgrade you might offer, one or two prices you'll know in advance.
If you do use screening ink, try a small test on the awning to check for adhearsion qualities.
Good Luck
------------------ Ron Percell Percell Signs 707-769-0639 Petaluma, California
I agree, in this case. BTW......Don't you guys radius the tips of new #11s??
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Posted by Kymi Hum (Member # 2140) on :
Thanks everyone for all your suggestions. I work with vinyl all day long but never even thought of it for this job, duh! I seem to try very hard to make things extra difficult for myself. It is so nice to have someone to bounce things off of before I get myself in too deep. I was really trying to figure how I was going to get that ink to lay down without looking like bubble gum. Thanks Again for replying to a newbie to the bb. Kymi Hum Vital Signs by Kymi Hum 5237 W. Disney Lane Dunnellon, FL 34433 352-563-6331 P.S. I know there is a way to get this signature on here without typing it, I'm just not sure how.....
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Posted by Glenn Taylor (Member # 162) on :
Welcome home, Kymi!
Near the top of the page and a little to the right is the word "profile". Just click on it and type in your UserName and Password. In the next window you will see the words "signature." Just fill in the box to the right and you are done.
Thanks again Glenn, once more you have made life a little easier.
------------------ Kymi Hum Vital Signs by Kymi Hum Dunnellon, FL wyme@infi.net wyme on mIRC
Posted by Kymi Hum (Member # 2140) on :
I went to check out the Subway awning job again and here are the new problems. #1. The oval to be redone is really suppose to be BLACK instead of brown. And from all the research I have found, no one makes a translucent black vinyl so that I can SEE THROUGH it to hand cut the logo out. #2. Whatever the awning was painted with is sooo oxidized and chalky that I'm not sure even once it has been scrubbed that the vinyl will stick to it. I figure I can go up and make a paper pattern of the logo and bring it back to the shop, transfer it to the vinyl and hand cut it and then try to get it perfectly registered to the old logo. But even if this is the only method of salvaging their awning I'm not sure I can get all that chalky black oxidation off well enough to apply vinyl that will adhere for any length of time. Is there any product that I can coat the oxidized paint with so that it will have a nice shiny surface for applying the vinyl over? Or possibly another cure? And if anyone know of a translucent black vinyl...?
------------------ Kymi Hum Vital Signs by Kymi Hum Dunnellon, FL wyme@infi.net wyme on mIRC
Posted by roger bailey (Member # 556) on :
This is not a "positive" but you might try Rapid Prep to clean off oxidation, not much to loose. Really sounds like they need a new one.
Oh well, not too much help, sorry !! Roger
------------------ Roger Bailey Rapid Tac Incorporated Waikoloa, Hawaii
