The other day I drove past a panel shops ute that was painted with chameleon (I think that's what its called, the paint that changes colour completely) and was trying to figure out how you would signwrite such a vehicle. The only way I could think of would be to put everything on a panel. Any other way and the sign would only work when viewed in the right direction. Has anyone put signs on this type of paint and how did you get around the colour change?
------------------ Neil White Sign Magic Melton, VIC Australia whitey@primus.com.au
Posted by David Otero (Member # 1645) on :
The paint you speak of is really cool stuff. Each manufacturer has their own name for it. I use PPG. I recently did a truck with the stuff and had a ball. First off, it is VERY expensive. Plan to pay more than $100 per ounce! (No that's not a typo.) The good news is that it is coming down in price as it becomes more common. Second, it comes in several different color selections, so with the proper back ground contrast, lettering works fine. The last truck I did was painted a nice candy red. I made a set of paint masks on the computer in a flowing race flag checker pattern. This was painted a gloss black. Before I unmasked, I bloched the camelion paint on the black with a wad of celophane. The paint was this cool color that changes from a rich gold to a sort of root beer color. After un-masking the checker, a clear coat with hardener in it was applied. The results were great. The customer was so thrilled, he had me do his motorcycle to match. Another technic is to make the background the changing paint and letter on top of it.
------------------ David Otero Ace Signs Albuquerque, NM
Posted by Gail & Dave Beattie (Member # 572) on :
i know the stuff your talking about... $1000 per ltr here when it first came out there 'were' only 2 diff shades (for want of a better word) and a bloke who's harley i did painted his tow truck in the darkest one... went from deep maroon to green with purple and blue in there too anyhoo while he was at it he chucked the stuff over a sporty that his mate owned and about a week later it turned up in my shop for a flame job <- ya what? the bloke who owned the thing wanted gost flames... i just shook my head wondering what on earth i could use to get anything to 'not stand out but still be there' on the thing decided with shaking hands to use createx blue chamelon <-(im sorry i still cant spell) i used the blue neat cause like i said he just wanted it gosted
it turned out great, the owner was rapt and so was i (she says with a big sign of relief) the blue was just enough and it bought out the richer blue/purple shade in the under paint i call it a happy accident
cheers gail
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Posted by cheryl nordby (Member # 1100) on :
I have seen it on some vehicles. It IS cool! Hey David.....that sounds really nice....do you have a picture of your job?
I believe HoK makes it for around $60 an ounce - a little goes a long ways. Maybe Joey can shed some light on this? I don't use it but it sure looks cool, and I see a lot of cars around with it on.
------------------ "If it isn't fun, why do it?" Signmike@aol.com Mike Languein Doctor of Letters BS, MS, PhD ___________________
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Posted by Gavin Chachere (Member # 1443) on :
HOK makes it by the qt or pint,currently we sell qts for around $535,pints are about $298,so if you're gonna do anytype work with it get em to order you the pt or qt,way less expensive that way
------------------ Gavin Chachere aka Zeeman Miller Supply Co./Ozone Signs & Grafix New Orleans La. www.millersupply.net www.ozonegrafix.com
Posted by Mike Pipes (Member # 1573) on :
I dont like the stuff at all, no matter which shades you get.. It's probably because I see soooooooooooooooooo dang much of it around, being into custom cars and trucks, that I'm just sick and tired of it. It doesnt hold any novelty in the custom car/truck arena anymore, it's just overdone.
The first time I saw that type of paint was probably about 8 years ago, at a car show where I saw some Limited Edition Mustangs (with the newer body style) nicknamed "Mystic". That's how they came from the factory, amber/burgundy chameleon paint, with some high performance parts and everyone at the Ford plant involved in building those cars put their signature on the parts under the hood.
------------------ Mike Pipes Digital Illusion Custom Graphics Lake Havasu City, AZ http://www.stickerpimp.com
Posted by Bruce Deveau (Member # 1600) on :
I believe the original question was how to letter such a changing color and have it work through the spectrum. I recommend gold or silver leaf. Because gold is a neutral color, it will work on anything.
My problem with the stuff is that it's all trick and no beauty. The change is definately cool, but the actual colors are washed out.
Bruce Deveau
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Posted by Joey Madden (Member # 1192) on :
PPG is the only manufacturer of this color change product that actually sells it in concentrated form at 36 bucks an ounce U.S.
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