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Posted by David Wright (Member # 111) on :

Came across this news of what is happening between environmentalists and the locals.
http://www.csmonitor.com/durable/2001/05/18/fp2s1-csm.shtml
Any further info from our correspondent in
Kalispell, Montana?

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Posted by Pierre St.Marie (Member # 1462) on :

Can't talk right now................gotta get more ammo to the front................

Ha! John Stokes, eh? He actually bought KGEZ radio station because nobody would let him talk on their shows! John's not too bad. They're exaggerating, as usual. The Daily Interlake is firmly in control of bleeding heart liberals, everyone around here knows it. HOWEVER...............White man Stokes speaks with straight tongue.

The real criminals are the Forest Service people. (I won't get into this one because I can get REAL venemous talking about two-bit Forest Service Feds packing iron) I've lived in Lost Prairie, west of town for around 30 years. ALL of the roads into the woods were always open and available to citizens for recreation or just plain "enjoying the woods". Montana has yet to declare that she's a "Soverign State" to the lowlife feds. The feds treat land owned by the citizens as if THEY owned it, and, subsequently, they've gated EVERY access road into the woods all over the state. They get smashed down and knocked in once in a while, but the feds always show up with new steel locked gates. (After all, we're all criminals not to be trusted, right? Just ask the BDMB Janet Reno.)

I don't want to be kept out of the woods. I live right in the middle of the woods!

Anyhoo.........If you're a fed reading this one.............."stay low, sucker".

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Posted by Pierre St.Marie (Member # 1462) on :

David, I reread the whole thing. I'm not known for liberal views, and I'm amazed to read a large number of things in th CS Monitor, but I can tell you without bias and in complete truth, the mojority of the statements in that rag concerning Kalispell business's reactions are complete LIES and fabrication. I have no idea what the reason for these published falsehoods might be, but they are nonetheless lies. Kalispellians are no different that any others in the Pacific Northwest, other than most of us keep and bear arms. I'm pro-environment as almost anyone around, and I'd do whatever I could to protect it for my grandkids, but to lock us all out of the woods is extremism, and that's exactly what they've done. Stokes just has reacted in a way to gain public attention. Too bad. he hasn't helped much.

Posted by Pierre St.Marie (Member # 1462) on :

David, I just spoke to Riebe's machine shop about the CSM claim. He said he heard it when the story first came out, and knowing every other machine shop in town, they all agreed that the CSM statement from Hernandez is pure fabrication. We have 52,000 in the Kalispell area, not 20,000. I don't know Hernandez, but a few of the older "sawyers" here do. I was told he was an undesireable employee for 6 different logging operations. He wasn't able to hold a position for any real length of time. He's a known "high-profiler", and it seems to be his primary motivation.

Always two sides, eh?

Posted by David Wright (Member # 111) on :

Pierre, the link to that story was at
lewrockwell.com. If you read the description
under the headline, it says "all hail the heroic people of Kalispell"
I agree.

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Posted by Glenn Taylor (Member # 162) on :

After reading the article, it really makes me wonder. Its hard to tell who's telling the truth and who's embellishing to get a headline.

Anyhow, I thought this would be a little fun.....50 Difficult Things You Can Do To Save the Earth by Gar Smith for the "Earth Island Journal." Its a little dated, but its still a hoot.

1) Bury your car.
2) Become a total vegetarian.
3) Grow your own vegetables.
4) Have your power lines disconnected.
5) Don't have children.
6) Restrict the population of motor vehicles.
7) Don't build cars.
8) Stop building roads.
9) Replace roads with homes, parks, and gardens.
10) Halt weapons production and exports.
11) Stop the sale, distribution, and export of cigarettes.
12) Send an amount of money to Brazil to provide urban
jobs for impoverished workers now forced into the rain forests.
13) Blockade a lumber truck carrying old-growth trees.
14) Spend a month tree-sitting.
15) Try to live, if you can, to within the world average income
($1,250 a year) for 1 month.
16) Cut up your credit cards.
17) Unplug your television.
18) Undertake a Conservation Sabbath:
one day a week without consuming electricity or fuel.
19) Fast a day each week, send the money saved on food to help feed the hungry.
20) Adopt a homeless person.
21) Raise the minimum wage to a survival income.
22) Enact a maximum wage law.
23) Tie politicians' salaries to the average working wage.
24) Replace majority rule with proportional representation.
25) Replace the Electoral College with direct democratic elections.
26) Abolish the CIA and the National Security Act of 1949.
27) Pass a nature amendment to the U.S. Constitution.
28) Oust presidential adviser John Sununu.
29) Plant one new tree every day.
30) Go to jail for something you believe in.
31) Don't own pets.
32) Allow all beef-producing domestic cattle to become extinct.
33) Redirect the military budget to restoration work; convert weapons
factories to peaceful research; retrain soldiers for ecological restoration.
34) Remove US Forest Service from under the Agriculture Department;
place USFS, Bureau of Land Management, Fish & Wildlife Service under the EPA.
35) Consume only products produced within your bioregion.
36) Don't eat anything that comes in a package.
37) Don't buy anything that comes in a box.
38) Require operators & owners of nuclear plants to live within a mile of the site.
39) Mandate federal recycling and institute a refuse tax on solid waste.
40) Pipe polluted water back into the water supplies of the companies that do the polluting.
41) Don't own anything that runs on batteries.
42) Hand over excess packaging to store manager on visits to the grocery.
43) Travel by bus, never by air.
44) Stop using toilet paper and Kleenex; use washable cloth.
45) Extend the life of your wardrobe by learning to make and mend your own clothes.
46) Give money to every single panhandler you meet.
47) Democratize your workplace; start a union or a collective.
48) Learn to farm.
49) Liberate a zoo.
50) Ask your boss if you can take a day off to work on healing the planet ... with pay!

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Posted by Pierre St.Marie (Member # 1462) on :

Yeah, I saw that David. Funny how those articles about a small town can make it seem like we're all third, fourth and fifth cuzzins. I must tell you that Libby, just down the highway, has the dubious distinction of having had (in 1976) the entire female segment of the senior graduating class, pregnant!

Posted by Pierre St.Marie (Member # 1462) on :

Yo........Davey............did you notice that he stole LE's word "vitriol" and used it TWICE?? ............durned treehuggers.............I'll give 'em some vitriol. hrumph............

Posted by roger bailey (Member # 556) on :

It is very disturbing to some, (even not living in the woods) to see these "basic rights" keep sliping away.
Life(to live or support oneself,food,work,drink)

Liberty(to be able to move,or travel,or be where you wish to be)

Pursuit of happiness(to have a place to be, and make a family, home,buiss., car, whatever)

These (or something close to what I'v described) are a guarantee of our Constitution, (as long as they don't infringe on other citizens rights)

Now, on top of paying the govt. to moniter and defend them, we all have to pay a lic. fee to use them.
Additionly, we see the govt. "change" them, to fit a monitary plan or some political agenda for one group or another. It seems, the more the govt. disects these "rights" the less of a whole we end up with.

Not sure anybody really knows the "best way" to deal with them, guess we just have to moniter the moniters, and raise a hand every time "We The People" don't think they are doing it right, problem is sometimes it may take a fist to get their attention.
It will always be a problem to interpret these "rights" so that everyone feels comfortable with them.

Just my interpretation.

Roger(babeling)

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Posted by VICTORGEORGIOU (Member # 474) on :

Maybe it is just old age setting in, but it seems to me that in days gone by there was enough "real" press that you could sort out the news from the garbage.

Nowadays all the news looks like delivery vehicles for advertising. Everything is a big tease to attract viewers. Everything is a sound bite. Not much middle of the road, and no depth. But that is what sells.

Then again, Mom always said - don't believe anything you read in a newspaper or half of what you see and hear. She was right.

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