Just wondering if anyone could refer me to a book, CD, Video or magazine article that could give me some ideas for a ghost flame job on my shop truck. Mostly I want to know about paint materials and clear coating. Thanks
Rob Root rootcellarsigns.com
------------------ Rob Root Root Cellar Signs Waubaushene, Ont. point and click until it works
Posted by Jerry Mathel (Member # 526) on :
Robert, Ghost flames on vehicles are generally done with base coat/clearcoat urethane. It's an excellent finish, but it takes special equipment to apply, and you really shouldn't tackle by yourself unless you have considerable experience in automotive refinishing. I'd strongly recommend you find an automotive paint shop that will work with you on the project. I don't mean to sound like a wet blanket, but the process is a bit too complicated to try on a "learn as you go" basis.
------------------ Jerry Mathel Jerry Mathel Signs Grants Pass, Oregon signs@grantspass.com
Posted by Larry Elliott (Member # 263) on :
Robert, You might check with a local body/paint shop that does a few trick jobs on the materials you'd need. If you can handle an airbrush you can acomplish the flames but I would reccommend you do some practicing on an old fender or door (painted the same color as your truck) you could pick up at a salvage yard. The finished job would need to be cleared and you will probably want that done by a professional body shop with a dust-free paint booth. We done a 'ghost' job on a Mustang, had three wild horses running down each side. We done this in clear and a little pearl and it came out great, the owner runs a body shop and custom car building company and cleared the project himself. The wild horses are barely noticable until the light catches and reflects the pearl then they come alive. Practice and go for it!
------------------ Larry
Elliott Design McLemoresville, Tn.
If you can't find the time to do it right, where gonna find the time to do it over?
Posted by Joey Madden (Member # 1192) on :
Larry if you recommend an airbrush for ghost flames on a shop truck you need to add that it will take at least 3 weeks to complete the job.
NOTE: there are just as many signmakers performing flame jobs and custom paint jobs and there are doctors making their own signage!
You can do it if you know how to airbrush or even use a paint gun. I used lacquer and did my motorcycle fairing. It's really suttle and the biker friends love it!
To answer your question look at "Rod Powell's - Flame Painting Techniques" book. I found a copy at Crown books for about $18. He talks about flames from the beginning of time to the latest trends.
Good luck and let us know how it turns out!
------------------ Brian Diver PDQ Signs Everett, Wa
(425) 252-6110 briandiver@excite
Posted by roger bailey (Member # 556) on :
Detail gun, airbrush, spraygun(usual for auto use),they all will do this for ya.
I always used laquer in "the old days" then clear over with urethane. Be carefull !1 Roger
------------------ Roger Bailey Rapid Tac Incorporated Waikoloa, Hawaii
Posted by Robert Root (Member # 758) on :
Thanks for the replys. I plan to practice on some parts first and I don't have too much pride to get some help from my friendly body shop if I need it.
Rob Root
------------------ Rob Root Root Cellar Signs Waubaushene, Ont. point and click until it works
Posted by captain ken (Member # 742) on :
2 ways you can do it: Traditonal kandy job: one color basecoat, similar color flame job, then kandy over everthing i.e. silver base, gold flames, red kandy everything looks awesome and really kicks "fakie, flakie" job: base-coat the color you want, add a little flake into some clear and shoot flames one light coat peel and clear everything. you want see 'em in the low light but in the sun they will Light up!
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